There are simple services that exist that — when a user fills-out & submits a on the Web that simple service e-mail someone that data.
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@reiver HUGE WARNING: ActivityPub DMs are not really very private. Modern e-mail is better if this is your intention.
AFAIK, e-mail isn't really private either.
Wouldn't an e-mail be about as private as an ActivityPub DM?
I.e., you have about the same level of privacy with both an ActivityPub DM and e-mail?
Or, am I missing something?
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There are simple services that exist that — when a user fills-out & submits a <form> on the Web that simple service e-mail someone that data.
These simple services are alternatives to more complex back-end with a database.
An alternative to this alternative could be — instead of e-mailing someone the submitted data, send that data via the Fediverse using ActivityPub.
ActivityPub them. (Can “ActivityPub” be a verb‽)
Probably as a private DM.
Yes and those simple services have huge problems with spam...
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Yes and those simple services have huge problems with spam...
I suppose if those simple services implemented anti-spam and such then they wouldn't be so simple eh...
That said sometimes really simple stuff eliminates the most spam. Even a single invisible text box. If the form is sent with a value for that input, discard it completely.
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There are simple services that exist that — when a user fills-out & submits a <form> on the Web that simple service e-mail someone that data.
These simple services are alternatives to more complex back-end with a database.
An alternative to this alternative could be — instead of e-mailing someone the submitted data, send that data via the Fediverse using ActivityPub.
ActivityPub them. (Can “ActivityPub” be a verb‽)
Probably as a private DM.
@reiver why though? the great thing about email is it being asynchronous (and I mark each message as read/unread and order them in my inbox).
not everything has to be bolted onto AP
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@reiver why though? the great thing about email is it being asynchronous (and I mark each message as read/unread and order them in my inbox).
not everything has to be bolted onto AP
For the people who want to use e-mail, they can. No one is going to force them to switch.
But, not everyone wants to use e-mail.
Some (like me, and others) would prefer an alternative "rails" because of all the difficulty and problems with e-mail.
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Also, ActivityPub is asynchronous (in that way), too.
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In some ways, ActivityPub is a modernized e-mail.
It has an 'inbox' and an 'outbox'.
You send and receive 'messages'.
Etc.
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For the people who want to use e-mail, they can. No one is going to force them to switch.
But, not everyone wants to use e-mail.
Some (like me, and others) would prefer an alternative "rails" because of all the difficulty and problems with e-mail.
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Also, ActivityPub is asynchronous (in that way), too.
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In some ways, ActivityPub is a modernized e-mail.
It has an 'inbox' and an 'outbox'.
You send and receive 'messages'.
Etc.
> "because of all the difficulty and problems with e-mail."
care to elaborate? (yes, IMAP is a dumpsterfire
)> "In some ways, ActivityPub is a modernized e-mail."
That's a streach
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> "because of all the difficulty and problems with e-mail."
care to elaborate? (yes, IMAP is a dumpsterfire
)> "In some ways, ActivityPub is a modernized e-mail."
That's a streach
Regarding:
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> "In some ways, ActivityPub is a modernized e-mail."That's a streach
"""At its core, SMTP uses 7-bit bytes.
ActivityPub uses 8-bit bytes (like most computers nowadays).
That feels like a major modernization to me.
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Regarding:
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> "In some ways, ActivityPub is a modernized e-mail."That's a streach
"""At its core, SMTP uses 7-bit bytes.
ActivityPub uses 8-bit bytes (like most computers nowadays).
That feels like a major modernization to me.
Regarding:
"""
"because of all the difficulty and problems with e-mail."care to elaborate? (yes, IMAP is a dumpsterfire
)
"""For example, trying to get an e-mail message delivered to a GMail e-mail address from your own Internet domain running on a self-hosted e-mail server is at the very least an incredibly difficult thing to accomplish — and sometimes even practically impossible.
And, if you are lucky enough to get it working, you have to re-do over and over again.
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Regarding:
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"because of all the difficulty and problems with e-mail."care to elaborate? (yes, IMAP is a dumpsterfire
)
"""For example, trying to get an e-mail message delivered to a GMail e-mail address from your own Internet domain running on a self-hosted e-mail server is at the very least an incredibly difficult thing to accomplish — and sometimes even practically impossible.
And, if you are lucky enough to get it working, you have to re-do over and over again.
Compared to that, ActivityPub is a much easier option to go with (than e-mail).
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Compared to that, ActivityPub is a much easier option to go with (than e-mail).
Also, I wrote this on it before:
@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman: (@reiver@mastodon.social)
I have heard some people argue for moving away from Web-based social-media and returning to E-Mail for their social-media distribution needs. I think a lot of people don't realize how difficult it is to do something as simple as sending out an e-mail -based newsletter. There are a lot of hurdles in the way of your e-mail newsletter getting delivered to your subscribers. E-Mail doesn't remove the gatekeepers or middlemen. It just replaces them with Google GMail, etc #DeSo #EMail #SocialMedia
Mastodon (mastodon.social)
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