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If I wanted to mess around with ActivityPub c2s clients what's a server I can host that has support for it?

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  • tom@tomkahe.comT tom@tomkahe.com

    If I wanted to mess around with ActivityPub c2s clients what's a server I can host that has support for it?

    box464@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    box464@mastodon.social
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    #9

    @tom I see others are pointing you in a similar direction, but funnily enough I tinkered with Social Web's ap-component test instance this afternoon!

    Look at the sample client "acct-handler", too. That's what I tried today.

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    I want to share some information about a repository we just published. ap-components is a set of Web Components for building interfaces for the ActivityPub API. I built it as I was making a sample application for handling the acct: URI scheme. I found myself making more and more components for the UI, and realised…

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    • tom@tomkahe.comT tom@tomkahe.com

      @thisismissem is that related to the stuff you were doing w/ PDSes a few weeks ago or are those separate projects?

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      #10

      @tom yeah, activitypds is the research project name, but there's a bunch of upstream work in Fedify to enable C2S in Fedify, and then also to enable reusing the Fedify vocabularies (they take JSON-LD and convert into classes that Fedify understands, and handles serialisation to JSON-LD)

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      • thisismissem@hachyderm.ioT thisismissem@hachyderm.io

        @tom yeah, activitypds is the research project name, but there's a bunch of upstream work in Fedify to enable C2S in Fedify, and then also to enable reusing the Fedify vocabularies (they take JSON-LD and convert into classes that Fedify understands, and handles serialisation to JSON-LD)

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        #11

        @tom basically the things I'm trying to solve in ActivityPDS are:
        - an OAuth profile (based on AT Proto's OAuth profile)
        - webfinger & DIDs & Handles
        - what should a "PDS" do in the context of ActivityPub C2S, how much logic does it implement, or is it just a simple pipe?

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        • tom@tomkahe.comT tom@tomkahe.com

          If I wanted to mess around with ActivityPub c2s clients what's a server I can host that has support for it?

          evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #12

          @tom https://github.com/evanp/one page.pub/

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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            @tom https://github.com/evanp/one page.pub/

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            #13

            @evan oh yeah this should be perfect

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            • tom@tomkahe.comT tom@tomkahe.com

              @evan oh yeah this should be perfect

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              #14

              @tom I can also send you an invite code.

              There's a chapter on the social API in the ActivityPub book.

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              In September 2023, I started work on a book about ActivityPub for O'Reilly Media. As of September 2024, the book is now available! Ebook The book is available from several different ebook vendors in different formats. O'Reilly Learning Platform Amazon Apple Books ebooks.com Kobo Print The book is not yet available in print format. O'Reilly…

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              • box464@mastodon.socialB box464@mastodon.social

                @tom I see others are pointing you in a similar direction, but funnily enough I tinkered with Social Web's ap-component test instance this afternoon!

                Look at the sample client "acct-handler", too. That's what I tried today.

                Link Preview Image
                ap-components

                I want to share some information about a repository we just published. ap-components is a set of Web Components for building interfaces for the ActivityPub API. I built it as I was making a sample application for handling the acct: URI scheme. I found myself making more and more components for the UI, and realised…

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                Social Web Foundation (socialwebfoundation.org)

                Link Preview Image
                GitHub - social-web-foundation/acct-handler: Experiment with the acct: URL format

                Experiment with the acct: URL format. Contribute to social-web-foundation/acct-handler development by creating an account on GitHub.

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                GitHub (github.com)

                evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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                #15

                @box464 @tom awesome! Make sure to add issues or PRs as you come up with ideas.

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                • tom@tomkahe.comT tom@tomkahe.com

                  If I wanted to mess around with ActivityPub c2s clients what's a server I can host that has support for it?

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                  #16

                  @tom there's a discussion here

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                  Which ActivityPub applications support Client-to-Server (C2S)?

                  delightful-fediverse-experience - A curated list of server applications supported on the ActivityPub Fediverse and related standards.

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    @tom I can also send you an invite code.

                    There's a chapter on the social API in the ActivityPub book.

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                    ActivityPub book

                    In September 2023, I started work on a book about ActivityPub for O'Reilly Media. As of September 2024, the book is now available! Ebook The book is available from several different ebook vendors in different formats. O'Reilly Learning Platform Amazon Apple Books ebooks.com Kobo Print The book is not yet available in print format. O'Reilly…

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                    #17

                    @evan I signed up to get notified for the print edition a few months ago, still prefer actually holding physical books haha

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                    • tom@tomkahe.comT tom@tomkahe.com

                      @evan I signed up to get notified for the print edition a few months ago, still prefer actually holding physical books haha

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                      #18

                      @tom OK!

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                      • tom@tomkahe.comT tom@tomkahe.com

                        @mariusor I got it running w/o many issues (maybe I missed it but I didn't see any wiki pages on building Box? I got that working as well regardless)

                        Is there an active issue w/ fetching oni content in Mastodon? I can't seem to grab my user or any statuses from my server or from activitypub.academy. I also tried fetching your posts (because it sounded like it at least worked last year, https://metalhead.club/@mariusor/113708953874760675) but that didn't work either so maybe I'm missing something.

                        mariusor@metalhead.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @tom I basically follow actors and that's how seeing posts by others in your /inbox works.

                        The frontend loads stuff directly through JavaScript fetch and needs all the mechanisms of that to work (and I imagine what you see might be things failing to load due to CORS rules being too restrictive on remote Mastodon instances)

                        I am not aware of any issues with receiving activities though, and in this process the objects themselves should be fully dereferenced to local copies.

                        I'll add a note about BOX compilation. Thanx.

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                        • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

                          @tom I basically follow actors and that's how seeing posts by others in your /inbox works.

                          The frontend loads stuff directly through JavaScript fetch and needs all the mechanisms of that to work (and I imagine what you see might be things failing to load due to CORS rules being too restrictive on remote Mastodon instances)

                          I am not aware of any issues with receiving activities though, and in this process the objects themselves should be fully dereferenced to local copies.

                          I'll add a note about BOX compilation. Thanx.

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                          @tom looking at the post of mine you linked, I realize you're probably thinking of regular object discovery, and there isn't any mechanism for it yet, or for viewing remote objects that haven't reached your inbox.

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                            @julian yes, two of them:

                            https://rattlehead.bruta.link < where a bot posts daily metal releases scraped from the internet

                            https://marius.federated.id < where I write a bit about stuff and play with more expressive ActivityPub objects.

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                            • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

                              @tom looking at the post of mine you linked, I realize you're probably thinking of regular object discovery, and there isn't any mechanism for it yet, or for viewing remote objects that haven't reached your inbox.

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                              @mariusor sorry I meant the reverse behavior, viewing Oni users/activities from my mastodon instance (or from mastodon.social) not viewing remote activities from oni

                              I.e. searching for https://marius.federated.id/outbox/1725894299052/object doesn't pull up the object in mastodon (and searching for the user doesn't bring that up either)

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                              • tom@tomkahe.comT tom@tomkahe.com

                                @mariusor sorry I meant the reverse behavior, viewing Oni users/activities from my mastodon instance (or from mastodon.social) not viewing remote activities from oni

                                I.e. searching for https://marius.federated.id/outbox/1725894299052/object doesn't pull up the object in mastodon (and searching for the user doesn't bring that up either)

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                                @mariusor actually nevermind ignore me, searching for your federated id user seems to work so I must have something wrong with my network configuration, I'll do some debugging later

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                                • tom@tomkahe.comT tom@tomkahe.com

                                  @mariusor sorry I meant the reverse behavior, viewing Oni users/activities from my mastodon instance (or from mastodon.social) not viewing remote activities from oni

                                  I.e. searching for https://marius.federated.id/outbox/1725894299052/object doesn't pull up the object in mastodon (and searching for the user doesn't bring that up either)

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                                  #24

                                  @tom I understand.

                                  Indeed in the past two/three weeks I must have deployed something (or Mastodon made some changes) that regular objects posted by ONI aren't findable any more. The problem is that I don't have a development setup for mastodon on which to test what the problem is. 😞

                                  However the actors should still be available.

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                                  • tom@tomkahe.comT tom@tomkahe.com

                                    @mariusor actually nevermind ignore me, searching for your federated id user seems to work so I must have something wrong with my network configuration, I'll do some debugging later

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                                    @tom a quick check list for you:

                                    1. Check if the actor is publicly accessible from the internet.

                                    2. Check if it has a RSA private/public key.

                                    3. Check that if you have a proxy in front of ONI it doesn't mangle Accept/Vary/Content-Type headers.

                                    4. Check that if you have a proxy the `/.well-known/webfinger` route is handled by ONI. (your proxy should forward all routes to ONI directly as a start)

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                                    • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

                                      @tom a quick check list for you:

                                      1. Check if the actor is publicly accessible from the internet.

                                      2. Check if it has a RSA private/public key.

                                      3. Check that if you have a proxy in front of ONI it doesn't mangle Accept/Vary/Content-Type headers.

                                      4. Check that if you have a proxy the `/.well-known/webfinger` route is handled by ONI. (your proxy should forward all routes to ONI directly as a start)

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                                      julian@community.nodebb.org
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                                      #26

                                      mariusor@metalhead.club Can you use ActivityPub.academy? There is a logger built in so you can see the activities coming and going. It might help you debug why the ONI activities aren't being processed.

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