Hey @julian@community.nodebb.org I'm currently experimenting with a NodeBB setup that has ActivityPub enabled.
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Hey @julian@community.nodebb.org I'm currently experimenting with a NodeBB setup that has ActivityPub enabled. I saw that documentation was a little bit sparse, and just wanted to expand my understanding.
I've seen NodeBB interact with different parts of the Fediverse. In my setup, I see that categories can follow existing Actors, such as profiles, blogs, and Lemmy Groups. Are categories themselves capable of being Actors in NodeBB?
We're kind of interested in maybe setting up a user community on We Distribute's infra, and integrating into the Threadiverse with Lemmy, Piefed, Mbin, and everyone else. I'm just trying to understand capabilities and limitations.
@deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.org
I just looked at your wedistribute.org website, and it looks great
What software / system are you using for that main page?Edit, answering my own question, having done Inspect, it seems your site is on wordpress. Looks very smart
and Ive realised the nodebb is at forum.wedistribute.org -
@julian I just ran into this. I guessed that the 'shortname' for https://forum.wedistribute.org/category/6/the-decentered-podcast would be 'the-decentered-podcast' but trying to fetch !the-decentered-podcast@forum.wedistribute.org didn't work, because it's actually just 'decentered'. I don't think that there's a way for anybody just looking at HTML representation to know this.
@freamon open to suggestions on how to expose this to the end user.
If accessing the content from fedi the handle is irrelevant, since it's part of the AP actor payload.
I'll admit I didn't really consider the use case of someone accessing the forum directly and looking for the handle to follow.
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@freamon open to suggestions on how to expose this to the end user.
If accessing the content from fedi the handle is irrelevant, since it's part of the AP actor payload.
I'll admit I didn't really consider the use case of someone accessing the forum directly and looking for the handle to follow.
@julian For a lot of people, the standard flow is to copy someone's handle, go back to their home base on Mastodon or Hubzilla or whatever, and follow or connect with them. Making the handle visible on the NodeBB UI would help people who use that flow. -
@freamon open to suggestions on how to expose this to the end user.
If accessing the content from fedi the handle is irrelevant, since it's part of the AP actor payload.
I'll admit I didn't really consider the use case of someone accessing the forum directly and looking for the handle to follow.
@julian I like how PeerTube does it. Looking at https://tilvids.com/c/thelinuxexperiment_channel/videos, for example, there's 2 intersecting squares next to the channel name, and clicking that puts the handle into my clipboard, for pasting into the box that I can then use on my instance to fetch it.
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@julian I like how PeerTube does it. Looking at https://tilvids.com/c/thelinuxexperiment_channel/videos, for example, there's 2 intersecting squares next to the channel name, and clicking that puts the handle into my clipboard, for pasting into the box that I can then use on my instance to fetch it.
@freamon You also have the Hubzilla example, which shows the entire handle below the user's display name.
For example, mine shows up as:
Scott M. Stolz
scott@loves.tech
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@freamon open to suggestions on how to expose this to the end user.
If accessing the content from fedi the handle is irrelevant, since it's part of the AP actor payload.
I'll admit I didn't really consider the use case of someone accessing the forum directly and looking for the handle to follow.
@julian Another thing to consider is that showing handles is a good way to prevent spoofing or identity confusion. That way you can tell the difference between julian@community,nodebb.org and julian@example.com. The fact that the domain is different alerts the user that this is not the same Julian. -
@julian Another thing to consider is that showing handles is a good way to prevent spoofing or identity confusion. That way you can tell the difference between julian@community,nodebb.org and julian@example.com. The fact that the domain is different alerts the user that this is not the same Julian.This is not the same Julian. This is Julian from Hubzilla Monster. I want cookies. Nom Nom Nom.
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@julian I like how PeerTube does it. Looking at https://tilvids.com/c/thelinuxexperiment_channel/videos, for example, there's 2 intersecting squares next to the channel name, and clicking that puts the handle into my clipboard, for pasting into the box that I can then use on my instance to fetch it.
@freamon ah, I see. Yes we could experiment with putting the handle underneath the category name.
@scott@loves.tech, we're talking about categories here, not users.
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@freamon ah, I see. Yes we could experiment with putting the handle underneath the category name.
@scott@loves.tech, we're talking about categories here, not users.
@julian I know, but I was too lazy to start a new topic. :winking_face_with_tongue: -
@julian I know, but I was too lazy to start a new topic. :winking_face_with_tongue:Speaking of which, I keep forgetting how to create a new topic. Are the handles for that exposed anywhere on NodeBB?
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Speaking of which, I keep forgetting how to create a new topic. Are the handles for that exposed anywhere on NodeBB?
@scott@loves.tech same shortcoming as finding the category for following, the handle isn't exposed.
Also not all categories federate so whatever solution we adopt has to also communicate if a category is local only to the instance.
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I didn't want to go as far as allowing categories to follow individual actors, because categories are for topical discussion and individual users tend to be less focused on a single topic.
So categories can follow other
Groupactors only. That is by design.However, a category is an actor, and anybody can follow it. They just need to know the handle, which is set in the admin panel and by default is usually the same as the "slug", which is the human readable bit in the url. e.g. "General Discussion"'s slug is
general-discussion. I do have to expose this to the frontend, though. It is not immediately apparent this is so.Share your thoughts in this GitHub issue opened by @panos@catodon.social https://github.com/NodeBB/NodeBB/issues/13126
Hi there! I'm sure this will be a very stupid question, but...
I recently got to federate my #NodeBB forum, and I can see and follow my user there @xbermusic@piano.cat , send messages and so on, so far so great.
I'd like to follow categories from the forum, but even when there is a handle for it ("proves" in the screenshot) I can't get to find not follow @proves@piano.cat
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks a lot!
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Hi there! I'm sure this will be a very stupid question, but...
I recently got to federate my #NodeBB forum, and I can see and follow my user there @xbermusic@piano.cat , send messages and so on, so far so great.
I'd like to follow categories from the forum, but even when there is a handle for it ("proves" in the screenshot) I can't get to find not follow @proves@piano.cat
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks a lot!
Hi @xbermusic@mastodont.cat, can you check the category privileges and ensure that the
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@julian hi! Yes, permissions seem to be ok.
I had some issues because the domain pointed to the correct IP, but it didn't point back to the domain, but now that seems to be solved.
Should I delete and create again the categories or maybe turn off federation and turn it on again on them?
Thanks!
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@julian hi! Yes, permissions seem to be ok.
I had some issues because the domain pointed to the correct IP, but it didn't point back to the domain, but now that seems to be solved.
Should I delete and create again the categories or maybe turn off federation and turn it on again on them?
Thanks!
@xbermusic@mastodont.cat are you still unable to find categories?
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@julian hi! Unfortunately not.
I made a post making the categories expecting that somehow I could follow them from Mastodon.
I used the handle @anuncis and that created a link with this: https://piano.cat/category/1/anuncis, but opening it from Mastodon doesn't lead to a pseudo-user but the category in my forum.
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@julian hi! Unfortunately not.
I made a post making the categories expecting that somehow I could follow them from Mastodon.
I used the handle @anuncis and that created a link with this: https://piano.cat/category/1/anuncis, but opening it from Mastodon doesn't lead to a pseudo-user but the category in my forum.
@xbermusic@mastodont.cat can you try renaming the handle to something else and back again?
