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“All a ‘true ActivityPub server’ is for is storing data, fanning out subscriptions and collecting incoming data for you to view.

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  • silverpill@mitra.socialS silverpill@mitra.social

    @helge @badrihippo Having tried to build a generic ActivityPub server, I can confirm: this is very difficult, maybe impossible. The server needs to understand the payloads -- in order to generate collections, for example. And security implications of allowing arbitrary activities are not quite clear.

    However, I think a modified version of ActivityPub protocol could support generic servers.

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    @silverpill @helge @badrihippo

    Do you have a sense of what you feel would need to be modified with ActivityPub to make it work?

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    • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

      @silverpill @helge @badrihippo

      Do you have a sense of what you feel would need to be modified with ActivityPub to make it work?

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      @reiver @silverpill @helge @badrihippo

      @zoul I really want a generic server. In that case I would have to start developing one of my own?

      A generic server that has support to Mastodon, Lemmy and Peertube API would be awesome

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      • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

        @silverpill @helge @badrihippo

        Do you have a sense of what you feel would need to be modified with ActivityPub to make it work?

        sl007@digitalcourage.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @reiver @silverpill @helge @badrihippo

        @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org
        @by_caballero

        full ack.
        We are working heavily towards a generic server and in deed it is super important what Helge decribes but anyway, we need to come together.

        original:
        „the client APIs necessary to make this a reality haven't seen much development“

        But many people want this.
        We should change that now and meet.
        After organizing the first official Confs https://conf.tube/c/apconf_channel/videos (tons of videos) I advised the EU for DMA and DSA and then Client To Server was eye-opening for them.

        My last Talks (e.g. together with funder at fediday) and those after had been in German but when we showed the AP Client2Server boardgame at Public Spaces it was english https://video.publicspaces.net/w/9USsJ37cHVy4tY9Pn7DX2X 🙂

        So, if anyone is interested in a nice dev. meeting about this topic apart from the new taskforces, please comment here !

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        • sl007@digitalcourage.socialS sl007@digitalcourage.social

          @reiver @silverpill @helge @badrihippo

          @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org
          @by_caballero

          full ack.
          We are working heavily towards a generic server and in deed it is super important what Helge decribes but anyway, we need to come together.

          original:
          „the client APIs necessary to make this a reality haven't seen much development“

          But many people want this.
          We should change that now and meet.
          After organizing the first official Confs https://conf.tube/c/apconf_channel/videos (tons of videos) I advised the EU for DMA and DSA and then Client To Server was eye-opening for them.

          My last Talks (e.g. together with funder at fediday) and those after had been in German but when we showed the AP Client2Server boardgame at Public Spaces it was english https://video.publicspaces.net/w/9USsJ37cHVy4tY9Pn7DX2X 🙂

          So, if anyone is interested in a nice dev. meeting about this topic apart from the new taskforces, please comment here !

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          @sl007

          I am happy to do a video call with anyone interested. (Assuming that is what you were suggesting.)

          We would just need to figure out a day and time for it.

          cc: @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

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          • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

            @sl007

            I am happy to do a video call with anyone interested. (Assuming that is what you were suggesting.)

            We would just need to figure out a day and time for it.

            cc: @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

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            @reiver @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

            very nice, that was my suggestion.
            I am just coding all day and so I'm very flexible.

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            • sl007@digitalcourage.socialS sl007@digitalcourage.social

              @reiver @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

              very nice, that was my suggestion.
              I am just coding all day and so I'm very flexible.

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              #12

              @sl007

              What time-zone are you in?

              cc: @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

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              • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

                @sl007

                What time-zone are you in?

                cc: @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

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                @reiver @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

                Europe/Berlin

                PS
                according to the temporal polyfill and "Intl to ActivityPub" I wrote yesterday:
                This Olson id is the same timezone like e.g. id: "DE-BE" or "DE" and can now be parsed from all localized names of the .Intl world – which is serverside polyfilled as well https://digitalcourage.social/@sl007/115275358490217223
                ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                At the moment it is summer in the EU which never implemented citizens demands or democracy results and so shifts are still in effect.
                At the moment it is UTC+1
                ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                • sl007@digitalcourage.socialS sl007@digitalcourage.social

                  @reiver @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

                  Europe/Berlin

                  PS
                  according to the temporal polyfill and "Intl to ActivityPub" I wrote yesterday:
                  This Olson id is the same timezone like e.g. id: "DE-BE" or "DE" and can now be parsed from all localized names of the .Intl world – which is serverside polyfilled as well https://digitalcourage.social/@sl007/115275358490217223
                  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                  At the moment it is summer in the EU which never implemented citizens demands or democracy results and so shifts are still in effect.
                  At the moment it is UTC+1
                  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                  @sl007

                  I am away from home (on the west-coast Canada) right now — and I am currently in Korea.

                  So, I am in UTC+9 right now.

                  I think my very early morning (in Korea) is your late evening (in Germany).

                  Would you be able to do a video chat in your late evening?

                  cc: @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

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                  • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

                    @sl007

                    I am away from home (on the west-coast Canada) right now — and I am currently in Korea.

                    So, I am in UTC+9 right now.

                    I think my very early morning (in Korea) is your late evening (in Germany).

                    Would you be able to do a video chat in your late evening?

                    cc: @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

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                    @reiver @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

                    would be able.

                    just btw: If it is "South Korea", I recommend having coffee with https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena 😉

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                    • sl007@digitalcourage.socialS sl007@digitalcourage.social

                      @reiver @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero

                      would be able.

                      just btw: If it is "South Korea", I recommend having coffee with https://toot.jeena.net/@jeena 😉

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                      @sl007

                      I am in Korea right now. But where I am staying is far away from Seoul and Pangyo.

                      cc: @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero @hongminhee

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                      • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

                        @sl007

                        I am in Korea right now. But where I am staying is far away from Seoul and Pangyo.

                        cc: @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero @hongminhee

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                        @sl007

                        How about doing the video chat on your Saturday evening?

                        (Which would be my Sunday morning.)

                        cc: @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero @hongminhee

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                        • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

                          @sl007

                          How about doing the video chat on your Saturday evening?

                          (Which would be my Sunday morning.)

                          cc: @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero @hongminhee

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                          @reiver @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero @hongminhee

                          I would be fine. Is anyone else interested?

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                          • sl007@digitalcourage.socialS sl007@digitalcourage.social

                            @reiver @silverpill @helge @badrihippo @julian@activitypub.space @julian@community.nodebb.org @by_caballero @hongminhee

                            I would be fine. Is anyone else interested?

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                            sl007@digitalcourage.social unfortunately not free but interested in any minutes and outcomes of this meeting!

                            cc reiver@mastodon.social helge@mymath.rocks

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