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  3. So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

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  • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

    @morph Re: magic sauce β€” I think it's as simple as me using the ActivityPub hashtag in the original mastodon post? I can't say for certain, just a guess.

    Or maybe @julian commenting pulled in the thread? Federation, guys. It's weird and wonderful.

    morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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    morph@morphnet.de
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    #17

    @haverholm @julian
    Indeed it is. Viva La FΓΆderation! πŸ––πŸ»

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    • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

      @morph Re: magic sauce β€” I think it's as simple as me using the ActivityPub hashtag in the original mastodon post? I can't say for certain, just a guess.

      Or maybe @julian commenting pulled in the thread? Federation, guys. It's weird and wonderful.

      haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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      @morph I hadn't even seen the forum post version until you mentioned it. Below my toot it says "[#]activitypub shared this topic about _ hours ago", so I suppose it is in fact an automated, hashtag based aggregation? @julian

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      • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

        @morph I hadn't even seen the forum post version until you mentioned it. Below my toot it says "[#]activitypub shared this topic about _ hours ago", so I suppose it is in fact an automated, hashtag based aggregation? @julian

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        @morph @julian They haven't federated my edit to the post, though. Now I will always be remembered as the guy who can't tell "to" from "too" 🀣

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        • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

          @morph @julian They haven't federated my edit to the post, though. Now I will always be remembered as the guy who can't tell "to" from "too" 🀣

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          @haverholm@radikal.social @morph@morphnet.de heheh yes you're looking at NodeBB, a forum that speaks ActivityPub!

          It pulled in your thread because you used the ActivityPub hashtag. πŸ™‚

          It didn't get your update because I don't follow you πŸ₯²

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            @julian I knew vaguely of the NodeBB AP implementationer, thanks for the reminder πŸ™‚ And the follow issue was easily fixed! @morph

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            • morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @julian One thing confuses me a bit. Registration for NodeBB works just locally (with Email, Github, Google etc.) and creates a new AP handle, right? Not by use of your existing one. That's just in use by following the forums' categories.
              @haverholm

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              • morph@morphnet.deM morph@morphnet.de

                @julian One thing confuses me a bit. Registration for NodeBB works just locally (with Email, Github, Google etc.) and creates a new AP handle, right? Not by use of your existing one. That's just in use by following the forums' categories.
                @haverholm

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                #23

                @morph@morphnet.de yes that's correct, you create a new local account.

                Use of your existing fedi handle is not quite available yet. Requires R&D and implementation from other software, so it's a much bigger lift.

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                • morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @julian I saw there exists a YunoHost package and of course now I want to run a node. I just have to figure out my ressources. They say it eats up to 1.5GB RAM. o.O
                  But won't that be much lower with the very few people on board which are to expect? Or will nodebb reserve the memory?

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                  • morph@morphnet.deM morph@morphnet.de

                    @julian I saw there exists a YunoHost package and of course now I want to run a node. I just have to figure out my ressources. They say it eats up to 1.5GB RAM. o.O
                    But won't that be much lower with the very few people on board which are to expect? Or will nodebb reserve the memory?

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                    #25

                    @morph@morphnet.de NodeBB doesn't require much memory at all. It does need maybe 1gb to build static resources.

                    Running it itself shouldn't need more than 500mb.

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                    • morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @julian That sounds good. Thanks for the info. I think I'll install NodeBB soon, and also Mitra. I got even an idea for a use case. Well ... and a potential community of 3-4 people. πŸ˜„
                      And of course thanks a lot for your fascinating project and competent work for the Open Social Web at all. Ehm ... I'm not so good in compliments.

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                      • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                        @nspsegal I think there's a slash missing in your URL: https://proustsaidthat.blog/2025/05/11/the-microsoft-doom-loop/ Giving it a read now.

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                        @haverholm Apologies for the typo. The weird thing is that lately I haven't been able to cut and paste things between one site and another. I don't know what that's about.

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                        • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                          @nspsegal Me, I dodge the bullet by using Linux and open source software. So far, LibreOffice hasn't drunk the "AI" kool aid.

                          Wordpress straying down that path is not a great sign of things to come, but I remain hopeful of a not entirely idiotic future.

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                          @haverholm

                          I have this fantasy that all the unemployed brilliant tech people will join forces and create better options...

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                          • nspsegal@mastodon.socialN nspsegal@mastodon.social

                            @haverholm Apologies for the typo. The weird thing is that lately I haven't been able to cut and paste things between one site and another. I don't know what that's about.

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                            @nspsegal No worries, I found it easily enough.

                            I've had similar issues copy/pasting recently. Don't know if it's some security sandboxing of the clipboard that's acting up?

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                            • nspsegal@mastodon.socialN nspsegal@mastodon.social

                              @haverholm

                              I have this fantasy that all the unemployed brilliant tech people will join forces and create better options...

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                              @nspsegal I'll join you in hoping!

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                              • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                                @julian Could be. How far along is their fediverse implementation?

                                Also, do you have experience migrating large-ish sites from one to the other? Because I'm involved with one group blog that would need to have 15 years or so worth of posts and podcast series moved from an ancient WP install...

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                                @julian Oh, ho ho. That's right, I forget we can't have nice things: https://lemmy.zip/comment/23379174

                                (Tldr, Ghost is being coded with Claude)

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