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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
    _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
    _elena@mastodon.social
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Dear Fedi friends,

    I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

    The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

    Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

    ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA ed@livellosegreto.itE jonasjrichter@mastodon.pnpde.socialJ everton137@social.vivaldi.netE d1re_w0lf@mstdn.socialD 23 Replies Last reply
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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      Dear Fedi friends,

      I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

      The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

      Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

      ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA This user is from outside of this forum
      ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA This user is from outside of this forum
      ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      @_elena Maybe do it in phases, grab the domains just in case, and then add sites if W builds any steam at all? But if there's French media attention there, that time might already have come.

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

        The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

        Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

        ed@livellosegreto.itE This user is from outside of this forum
        ed@livellosegreto.itE This user is from outside of this forum
        ed@livellosegreto.it
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        @_elena I think that we need more "why/how you should join the Fediverse" rather than "why you should not use platform X, Y, W".

        We (as in: the internet) spoke loudly about why not using certain type of softwares and platform and it didn't really made a substantial difference.

        I think we need to focus on bringing people (and make them stay) here rather than scare them about another software or platform.

        palin@livellosegreto.itP 1 Reply Last reply
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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Dear Fedi friends,

          I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

          The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

          Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

          jonasjrichter@mastodon.pnpde.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jonasjrichter@mastodon.pnpde.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jonasjrichter@mastodon.pnpde.social
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @_elena Hard to say if it's worth it at this point. Maybe it lands on its face right away, but if it does receive attention and lots of actual people create accounts there, having information about that site would be useful.
          Does it need to be its own website in that case? Not sure.

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

            The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

            Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

            everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
            everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
            everton137@social.vivaldi.net
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @_elena in my opinion, it's a waste of energy. I'd rather focus bringing more politicians here

            Members of the European Parliament (MEPs)

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            Leave X - Protect Democracy (leavex.eu)

            everton137 (@everton137@vivaldi.net)

            Over the past few days, the @leavex@mastodon.social account has gained almost 500 new followers. Until recently, the Bluesky account (@leavex.eu@bsky.brid.gy) had nearly 1000 followers and was ahead of the Fediverse version. That situation has now reversed. This shift seems closely tied to the recent revamp of the #LeaveX campaign, which now includes statistics on how many politicians are still using X. Increased visibility also played an important role: the project was shared widely by @randahl@mastodon.social, an account with a large following, which likely contributed significantly to the surge in followers. What’s particularly interesting is that the Mastodon account consistently receives more attention and interaction than the Bluesky account. This suggests that, at least for political topics, engagement currently can run deep on the Fediverse. 1/2 #Fediverse #Mastodon #Bluesky #Politics #LeaveX #SocialMedia

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            Vivaldi Social (social.vivaldi.net)

            naturemc@mastodon.onlineN 1 Reply Last reply
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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

              The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

              Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

              d1re_w0lf@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
              d1re_w0lf@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
              d1re_w0lf@mstdn.social
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @_elena It’s ironic that the supposed European alternative to X and the answer to independence from U.S. tech is… using “American” ATProto instead of “European” Mastodon.

              Link Preview Image
              Anuj Ahooja (@quillmatiq.com)

              Turns out, W may run on ATProto. Dope. Probably should've led with that in the initial PR cycle, and I wish they had given props to other folks building ATProto infra in Europe as well. Not too late to do so! [contains quote post or other embedded content]

              favicon

              Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

              sturmsucht@mastodon.socialS 1 Reply Last reply
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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                borisschapira@framapiaf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                borisschapira@framapiaf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
                borisschapira@framapiaf.org
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @_elena Press is often lazy. Coverage is often a matter of whether or not Press media received a ready-to-publish communicate. That's why most private orgs, with com teams, get covered while many communities and public-service associations are not.

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                  The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                  Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                  joakimfors@mastodon.greenJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  joakimfors@mastodon.greenJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  joakimfors@mastodon.green
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @_elena Chaotic neutral: set up a masto/goto instance on a wsocial:ish domain 😈

                  _elena@mastodon.social_ 1 Reply Last reply
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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Dear Fedi friends,

                    I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                    The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                    Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                    gabboman@gabboman.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
                    gabboman@gabboman.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
                    gabboman@gabboman.xyz
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Host wafrns on them

                    FUN FACT wafrn does fedi and bsky so you would be givin a better service than default W and you could argue it was a wafrn reference wich is older than W social

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Dear Fedi friends,

                      I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                      The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                      Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                      nopatience@swecyb.comN This user is from outside of this forum
                      nopatience@swecyb.comN This user is from outside of this forum
                      nopatience@swecyb.com
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.

                      Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.

                      Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.

                      That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.

                      nopatience@swecyb.comN everton137@social.vivaldi.netE angelomassaro@mastodon.socialA paul@misskey.ellidaf.ruP 4 Replies Last reply
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                      • joakimfors@mastodon.greenJ joakimfors@mastodon.green

                        @_elena Chaotic neutral: set up a masto/goto instance on a wsocial:ish domain 😈

                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                        _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
                        _elena@mastodon.social
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @joakimfors OMG this is BRILLIANT! 😂

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                        • ed@livellosegreto.itE ed@livellosegreto.it

                          @_elena I think that we need more "why/how you should join the Fediverse" rather than "why you should not use platform X, Y, W".

                          We (as in: the internet) spoke loudly about why not using certain type of softwares and platform and it didn't really made a substantial difference.

                          I think we need to focus on bringing people (and make them stay) here rather than scare them about another software or platform.

                          palin@livellosegreto.itP This user is from outside of this forum
                          palin@livellosegreto.itP This user is from outside of this forum
                          palin@livellosegreto.it
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @ed @_elena I politely ask why not both? A centralized system could be better if there are no drawbacks. We know that there no such thing as a free lunch, so we should explain that on top of fediverse advantages.

                          vonblubba@livellosegreto.itV 1 Reply Last reply
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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            Dear Fedi friends,

                            I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                            The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                            Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                            mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                            mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                            mensrea@freeradical.zone
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @_elena they seem like great domains to start hosting fedi services. they go looking for euro-corp they find international co-op

                            mensrea@freeradical.zoneM 1 Reply Last reply
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                            • nopatience@swecyb.comN nopatience@swecyb.com

                              @_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.

                              Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.

                              Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.

                              That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.

                              nopatience@swecyb.comN This user is from outside of this forum
                              nopatience@swecyb.comN This user is from outside of this forum
                              nopatience@swecyb.com
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @_elena Unless you can do both at the same time... then do both 😉

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                              • mensrea@freeradical.zoneM mensrea@freeradical.zone

                                @_elena they seem like great domains to start hosting fedi services. they go looking for euro-corp they find international co-op

                                mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                                mensrea@freeradical.zoneM This user is from outside of this forum
                                mensrea@freeradical.zone
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @_elena what's known as guerrilla marketing

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                                • palin@livellosegreto.itP palin@livellosegreto.it

                                  @ed @_elena I politely ask why not both? A centralized system could be better if there are no drawbacks. We know that there no such thing as a free lunch, so we should explain that on top of fediverse advantages.

                                  vonblubba@livellosegreto.itV This user is from outside of this forum
                                  vonblubba@livellosegreto.itV This user is from outside of this forum
                                  vonblubba@livellosegreto.it
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @palin Europe is finally taking steps toward independence from US IT infrastructure. It’s likely too little, too late, but it’s still a move in the right direction. While I appreciate the effort, I suspect the Fediverse might have been a better solution. That said, I cynically believe this initiative will fail miserably without much outside interference 😅 @ed @_elena

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                                  • nopatience@swecyb.comN nopatience@swecyb.com

                                    @_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.

                                    Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.

                                    Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.

                                    That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.

                                    everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
                                    everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
                                    everton137@social.vivaldi.net
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @_elena @nopatience I second that.

                                    A video addressing the nearly 60% of Members of the European Parliament still active on X would be beautiful.

                                    Members of the European Parliament (MEPs)

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                                    Leave X - Protect Democracy (leavex.eu)

                                    What would happen if prominent politicians had official, active accounts on the Fediverse? Public attention would certainly follow, as would journalists, who are obligated to track and report on political figures.

                                    People don't leave the Fediverse solely because of technical hurdles. Many arrive, look around, and simply don't find enough reasons to stay. Retention is not just a usability problem, but also a matter of social density and relevance. With a sufficiently large and visible group of active participants, the Fediverse could generate its own gravity and flourish beyond the tech-savvy community.

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Dear Fedi friends,

                                      I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                                      The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                                      Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

                                      odd@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                                      odd@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                                      odd@mstdn.social
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @_elena its probably better not to sabotage EU alternatives, but by grabbing domains the fediverse could be injected into the news cycle, if done with a coherent message to the media.

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                                      • nopatience@swecyb.comN nopatience@swecyb.com

                                        @_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.

                                        Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.

                                        Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.

                                        That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.

                                        angelomassaro@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        angelomassaro@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        angelomassaro@mastodon.social
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @nopatience @_elena I second this

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                                        • d1re_w0lf@mstdn.socialD d1re_w0lf@mstdn.social

                                          @_elena It’s ironic that the supposed European alternative to X and the answer to independence from U.S. tech is… using “American” ATProto instead of “European” Mastodon.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Anuj Ahooja (@quillmatiq.com)

                                          Turns out, W may run on ATProto. Dope. Probably should've led with that in the initial PR cycle, and I wish they had given props to other folks building ATProto infra in Europe as well. Not too late to do so! [contains quote post or other embedded content]

                                          favicon

                                          Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

                                          sturmsucht@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          sturmsucht@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          sturmsucht@mastodon.social
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @d1re_w0lf @_elena

                                          EDIT: Sorry, I mixed up Wsocial with Wedium https://wedium.social

                                          New social networks are popping up everywhere these days.

                                          aslakr@mastodon.socialA 1 Reply Last reply
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