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If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

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  • dahukanna@mastodon.socialD dahukanna@mastodon.social

    @evan
    It should be visible to the original set as Alice shared the post with her followers, not followers of followers (light blue segment of set diagram). Any of Bob’s followers that also follow Alice will see the post and replies anyway. See comments on set diagram and post about the set theory maths/model - https://mastodon.social/@dahukanna/116030140984675453

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    @dahukanna
    Oh... I need to change my answer. 😅
    Other: the dark blue-grey.
    @evan

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    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

      If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

      #EvanPoll #poll

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      @evan

      Just visible to Alice unless she accepts the post. And she controls the visibility on her posts.

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      • lazysupper@famichiki.jpL lazysupper@famichiki.jp

        @dahukanna
        Oh... I need to change my answer. 😅
        Other: the dark blue-grey.
        @evan

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        @lazysupper @dahukanna so, in a long conversation, the number of people who can see the responses gets smaller and smaller over time?

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        • buckrogers1965@techhub.socialB buckrogers1965@techhub.social

          @evan

          Just visible to Alice unless she accepts the post. And she controls the visibility on her posts.

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          @BuckRogers1965 have you tried the ActivityPub plugin for WordPress? This is how it works; absolutely great stuff.

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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            @lazysupper @dahukanna so, in a long conversation, the number of people who can see the responses gets smaller and smaller over time?

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            @evan
            Yes. I initially thought that's a problem. But it respects the privacy wishes of the respondents. But ideally most of the conversation will occur within the overlap.

            If Dave knows Alice and Bob but hates Chad, he shouldn't be excluded from the conversation just because Chad's a jerk. And he shouldn't need to reveal his reponses to Chad, just because Alice and Bob tolerate Chad.

            @dahukanna

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            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

              If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

              #EvanPoll #poll

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              @evan ToAlice, but visible to followers of both.
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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                #EvanPoll #poll

                bodling@deacon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                @evan Carol and Ted clearly need to be looped in

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                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                  @maj Dawn's and my answer would be all of Alice's followers. I don't like the intersection answer, because it gets smaller and smaller over time. I think Alice's intent is to have her friends and family have a conversation, like it works on Instagram and Facebook.

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                  @evan @maj But Bob may want to reply something that he doesn't want to divulge to all of Alice's followers (he likely doesn't know them all) so he may want to explicitly shrink the set to the intersection

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    @jmcclure you're forgiven!

                    The poll is not mandatory, so please feel free to spend your one wild and precious life doing something different.

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                    @evan

                    Huh?

                    I'm sorry I encroached on your poll without your invitation. I saw it, it looked interesting, so I submitted my vote and explained my "other" as requested.

                    If you didn't want to hear people's thoughts, don't ask for them.

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                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                      If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                      #EvanPoll #poll

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                      @evan You asked "should", not "does", so my answer is "only people who follow *both* Alice and Bob", that is, the intersection of both sets of followers. (Your 3rd option, to me, reads like "people who follow *either*", that is, the union.)

                      Whether Alice-only follower Carol (resp. Bob-only follower Dave) should gain access to Bob's reply by following Bob (resp. Alice) after Bob's reply is unclear to me.

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                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                        @maj does this help?

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                        Attached: 1 image @evan@cosocial.ca It should be visible to the original set as Alice shared the post with her followers, not followers of followers (light blue segment of set diagram). Any of Bob’s followers that also follow Alice will see the post and replies anyway. See comments on set diagram and post about the set theory maths/model - https://mastodon.social/@dahukanna/116030140984675453

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                        @evan @maj
                        So the third item should be "Anyone who are following both Alice and Bob" to be clear. Current form of the item (candidate) can be read "Anyone following whichever Alice or Bob, but not both" as I've confused.

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                        • T tomaoki@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          @evan @maj
                          So the third item should be "Anyone who are following both Alice and Bob" to be clear. Current form of the item (candidate) can be read "Anyone following whichever Alice or Bob, but not both" as I've confused.

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                          @TomAoki @maj third item is the union.

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                          • pauamma@mstdn.socialP pauamma@mstdn.social

                            @evan You asked "should", not "does", so my answer is "only people who follow *both* Alice and Bob", that is, the intersection of both sets of followers. (Your 3rd option, to me, reads like "people who follow *either*", that is, the union.)

                            Whether Alice-only follower Carol (resp. Bob-only follower Dave) should gain access to Bob's reply by following Bob (resp. Alice) after Bob's reply is unclear to me.

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                            @pauamma so, the audience for replies gets smaller and smaller as the conversation grows?

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                            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                              If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                              #EvanPoll #poll

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                              @evan

                              Intersection of Alice and Bob's followers.

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                              • bjb@fosstodon.orgB bjb@fosstodon.org

                                @evan

                                Intersection of Alice and Bob's followers.

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                                @bjb so a smaller and smaller audience as the conversation goes on? Eventually too small to keep the conversation up?

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                                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                  @bjb so a smaller and smaller audience as the conversation goes on? Eventually too small to keep the conversation up?

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                                  @evan

                                  Yep. If there are people that Bob's not interested in, Bob should not have to deal with them.

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                                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                    If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                                    #EvanPoll #poll

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                                    @evan What about Ted and Carol's followers?

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                                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                      If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                                      #EvanPoll #poll

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                                      @evan
                                      Please help me, my friend, I desperately need you 🙏

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                                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                        @pauamma so, the audience for replies gets smaller and smaller as the conversation grows?

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                                        @evan Good question. I'd have to think about it more, but my hot take is "it depends a lot on context". (Consider for instance that Bob may be Alice's stalkery ex.)

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                                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                          If Alice makes a followers-only post, and Bob replies to it, to whom should Bob's reply be visible?

                                          #EvanPoll #poll

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                                          Hey, all. So, I appreciate the responses. I'll break down the options here.

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