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  3. I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

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  • wjmaggos@liberal.cityW wjmaggos@liberal.city

    @taylorlorenz

    the magic of this place is that it gives the people all the power over what info, ideas and art gets attention. not governments or billionaire owners of media or corporate platforms. (not sure they'd want to hear that)

    the problems with social media come down to the algos, not social media itself. that's what we're proving. the algos push a tabloid culture cause they know we'll pay attention to junk, even if we'd never share it. so they push the junk and our culture dets debased.

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    #292

    @wjmaggos @taylorlorenz absolutely true! And very well observed. It’s not just a case of not getting adverts but every individual on the platform is filtering by boosting or not boosting suspect posts.
    So it’s a kind of non-stop moderation by real human beings just like us.

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    • bflipp@vmst.ioB bflipp@vmst.io

      @User47 @taylorlorenz

      This could work.

      But I feel like in a lot of ways people only view the internet as some mishmash of TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Netflix, and their banking app.

      If you take away the algorithm shoving content down their throat they are TOTALLY LOST because they've literally never had to seek out things on their own that interest them on the internet before.

      Those people are sadly never going to find a home on Mastodon as it currently operates. They physically don't have the pathways in their brain or a good enough understanding of what the internet is and how it works to "get" what Mastodon is offering.

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      @User47 @taylorlorenz @bflipp I'm looking for a 3 foot tall 29 foot wide hunk of a man with 4 arms and more legs.

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      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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        #294

        @taylorlorenz
        The fediverse and its largest apps mastodon, lemmy, peertube and pixelfed have corpoverse cousins that they replace. In this case thats twitter, reddit, youtube and instagram.

        On the fediverse all these platforms work together and you can comment with one on the other. You also have actual free speech, meaning you have no central moderation pushing an agenda. You can move freely between servers and even start your own with the rules you deem best.

        Thats my pitch to onboard folks.

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        • davew@mastodon.onlineD davew@mastodon.online

          @benroyce And thank goodness they are here. It’s so hard to find cat pix on the Internet 🐈‍⬛

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          @davew @benroyce Sarcasm Alert!

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          • user47@vmst.ioU user47@vmst.io

            @taylorlorenz tell them it’s just like bluesky, but all of their marketing lies are actually true here

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            @taylorlorenz @User47 I'm not sure I want the typical Blue sky user here on masto, do you? Bluesky is full of pompous blowhards using it as push media. They don't want engagement, they just want to broadcast self promotion.

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            • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

              I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

              How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

              Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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              @taylorlorenz When you're tired of X, come over here.

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              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                @taylorlorenz Amusement parks are great, but you're just a visitor passing through. A public park is where you can meet your neighbours and the community decides if they want to add a café.

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                • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                  I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                  How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                  Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                  @taylorlorenz I've actually though of how to describe Mastodon in a short way to non techi-people, while keeping in mind what prevented me to join any federated network before.

                  The whole point of Mastodon is to put back controls of their social networks to the users. That means it's not design around advertisements and unknown way to select content for you. Instead people run servers around given thematics. There is no need to have algorithms which choose for you content you might be interrested for, instead you find a server which have a community around the same interrests or localisation, and your local timeline will be filled of content from people of the same server, which have the same interrests.
                  But as it's federated, nothing prevent you to read content from other users. Because an account creation is easy, you can also have alt-accounts to discover other communities, and follow people from there on you main account. Most of the Mastodon apps can manage multiple accounts.

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                  • mike@thecanadian.socialM mike@thecanadian.social

                    @taylorlorenz You own your timeline. Like the early days when social media worked.

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                    @mike @taylorlorenz
                    No adverts, no algorithms and you choose exactly what you see and read and who you talk to.

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                    • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                      I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                      How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                      Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                      There are a lot of technical advantages (and some disadvantages), but for a single point about free expression:

                      There is no singular entity that decides what is acceptable to say, what gets promoted, what gets demoted ("shadow banning"), or causes your account to be deleted.

                      (Sure, there's a lot of abhorrent stuff you can post that will likely get your account or instance widely shunned, blocked and/or defederated. But it's not the decision of any *one* individual or company.)

                      @taylorlorenz

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                      • tommertron@masto.yttrx.comT tommertron@masto.yttrx.com

                        @timbray @taylorlorenz Plus one on the email analogy. Email is about as complicated as Mastodon. Email has its problems just like mastodon but it’s still a remarkably useful and resilient tool that no one company controls. I can email anyone from any email provider. I can’t say the same for social media.

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                        @tommertron @timbray @taylorlorenz @JonChevreau except apparently email is an oligopoly now; you can't run your own server anymore.
                        https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oligopoly-has-won.html

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                        • haubles@hachyderm.ioH haubles@hachyderm.io

                          @taylorlorenz

                          Mastodon is the anti-influence platform

                          On the social web we are
                          - free from the influence of megalomaniacs or any one person
                          - free from the influence of VCs and profit motivations
                          - free from the influence of algorithmic manipulation

                          Plus as a bonus, you can follow a friend's "Instagram" from your "Twitter" account ✨

                          #Fediverse #Mastodon #SocialWeb

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                          #303

                          @haubles @taylorlorenz and even a friend's "TikTok" 🤓

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                          • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                            I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                            Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                            @taylorlorenz @mudaste Say something like "I'm happy to answer this question repeatedly for multiple news channels as I'm sure we all appreciate having a common but diverse environment where many points of view can come from different sources..."

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                            • haubles@hachyderm.ioH haubles@hachyderm.io

                              @taylorlorenz

                              Mastodon is the anti-influence platform

                              On the social web we are
                              - free from the influence of megalomaniacs or any one person
                              - free from the influence of VCs and profit motivations
                              - free from the influence of algorithmic manipulation

                              Plus as a bonus, you can follow a friend's "Instagram" from your "Twitter" account ✨

                              #Fediverse #Mastodon #SocialWeb

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                              @haubles @taylorlorenz dear madam, thx for the info. Just wanted 2 inform: I can not open a insta account anymore. Most probably because I commented my former boss' insta pictures (she was or is also model). I swear it wcharming only(after me being below her in companie's hierarchy. But I can not ask insta (META) what the (/$/&§§"!$§"/%$) is going on there. Wt i want to tell is that META can not be reached en by german federal offices...just 2 let u know 🙂 cheers Jan CT BECKMANN Diploma eng.

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                              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                patatapinecone@theforkiverse.comP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #306

                                @taylorlorenz I'm somewhat new, this far what I notice is: the vibes are not off. On other social networks I feel like a consumer. I scroll. I'm even afraid to post at all. There is a lightness to the place.

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                                • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                  I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                  How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                  Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                                  @taylorlorenz I just made a mastodon account 6 days ago. I have way more options for how my account looks with skins and multicolumn layout right in settings (instead of a third party app), drill just got suspended and the response from the frazee was basically "oh, did I do that?". i'm not a fan of snotty little shits banning people for nebulous posts.

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                                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                                    @taylorlorenz

                                    I do not use Mastodon and if it was the only option, I would not be on the Fediverse at all. Thankfully it is not the only option.

                                    As far as what I would say about the Fediverse's distributed nature. I would point out the benefits of not having one person, the owner of the centralized social media, make all the decisions. They might even force you to only have one type of Instance 😉.

                                    There is a large range of benefits though the top is that no one person will ever control the Fediverse. It was designed to prevent that from being a reality. If a person wants to have someone else make all their decisions for them, then I guess centralized social media is for them. It is definitely not for me. I love the extended control over formatting and style we have. I love the way we can decide what gets propagated (by interacting with it) rather than having that central authority make the decision of what we should see propagated.

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                                    • aesthr@wandering.shopA aesthr@wandering.shop

                                      @haubles @taylorlorenz that first one really isn’t true though. The fediverse has harmful parasocial and group dynamics just like every other social space. And the concentration of power in instance admins sure adds to that.

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                                      @aesthr @taylorlorenz

                                      I take your point, but as you say: that’s a people problem not a technology problem. that is true of people wherever they form groups, on and offline. The fediverse is different because unlike other social networking platforms, you can vote with your feet if you find yourself in a social space that doesn’t suit you anymore, by leaving and taking your followers and followings with you.

                                      There’s certainly more we can do as a community (and as the Mastodon org) to make our technology more resilient to toxic human dynamics. One thing is we want to do is make it a lot easier for anyone to host a Mastodon instance, so if you can’t find a space that suits you, you can make your own. And we’re working on that this year! Another thing we’re considering (but is not on our roadmap right now) is adding post migration, which will make it a lot easier for people to pick up and leave when a space doesn’t suit them anymore.

                                      We’re not trying to “fix” people here, but we are trying to make technology that is resilient to our worst habits and impulses instead of actively exploiting and compounding them. How do you think we should try to address this?

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                                      • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

                                        @haubles @taylorlorenz

                                        *BOOSTS HARD FOR MAXIMUM CLOUT*

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                                        @davep @taylorlorenz

                                        *ALL-FATHERS LET THE CLOUT FLOW THOUGH ME ONE LAST TIME*

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                                        • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                                          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                                          @taylorlorenz
                                          My take on it would be:

                                          - no ads
                                          - culture overall against AI slop
                                          - no black-box algorithm
                                          - you create a profile where the rules suit you, while still being connected to the rest of the network
                                          - ... which means it somewhat reflects better how diverse we are. Not "one size fits all" behemoth.
                                          - you can move if things change
                                          - not designed to be adictive, milk your data and drain your wallet

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