Discoverability on the Fediverse and Thought Dump
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does it have https://theindiebeat.fm stations yet?
https://labr.online/ is another fedi adjacent site
https://anonradio.net/ is another (SDF crowd) but I'm not sure they have the info needed ... could be wrong
@limebar I'd be totally cool with adding those stations, though I worry it's not in line with the ethos of those stations, in that I'm typically not focused on sharing backlinks to individual artists, but focused on highlighting the station itself. It's not that I don't support the artists, it's more that my app is focused on being able to scrobble and also highlight the radio station. Ideally I want to add links to streaming and bandcamp per song, but getting that pulled in from a source has been something I haven't been able to reconcile.
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@limebar I'd be totally cool with adding those stations, though I worry it's not in line with the ethos of those stations, in that I'm typically not focused on sharing backlinks to individual artists, but focused on highlighting the station itself. It's not that I don't support the artists, it's more that my app is focused on being able to scrobble and also highlight the radio station. Ideally I want to add links to streaming and bandcamp per song, but getting that pulled in from a source has been something I haven't been able to reconcile.
good point
fwiw the artist link for the indie beat radio channels is in the now_playing | custom_fields | ext_links json field... but yeah since this is custom I could see how that is not reliable across all stations, so you'd only be able to pull those links if your code has a station-specific location selector (like xpath for json... )
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in the meantime, mizkirsten is hopefully able to get a staging server going this weekend so we can see what's what
Hi, friends!
Thanks to @Mel for bringing this discussion to my attention
I've been a little (ok, a lot) distracted the last couple of months. I'm selling my house (after 16 years) and trying to hopefully move my family to Spain (from the U.S.). It's a LOT, ha. I also run a business for income (reachyourapex.com).
I didn't get a staging server running yet. But this discussion has me psyched up! So I'll carve out some time this week to do so.
If $20/month is an accurate estimate of costs, then I've got no worries. Can totally handle that.
Y'all are so inspiring
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Hi, friends!
Thanks to @Mel for bringing this discussion to my attention
I've been a little (ok, a lot) distracted the last couple of months. I'm selling my house (after 16 years) and trying to hopefully move my family to Spain (from the U.S.). It's a LOT, ha. I also run a business for income (reachyourapex.com).
I didn't get a staging server running yet. But this discussion has me psyched up! So I'll carve out some time this week to do so.
If $20/month is an accurate estimate of costs, then I've got no worries. Can totally handle that.
Y'all are so inspiring
Life stuff will always slow us down... but luckily we are not in any rush! We are all just happily nerding out here hahah
Best of luck with everything Kirsten
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I know a lot of people use Owncast for 24-hour streams, do you reckon that’s the best thing for it? To me, the social aspect is the best thing about Owncast (chats, “gone live!” notifications, etc), but I dunno if I’m atypical in how I use it.
Had a quick look into discoverability options for, eg, Azuracast video, but I’m not really sure how it all works as I haven’t had a TV for a few decades!
does anyone know if owncast uses multicast or something? or does each additional viewer add additional traffic
peertube ostensibly supports webTorrent so that clients share the load when multiple people are watching
talking to Sam today it occurs to me that depending on how owncast works, maybe peertube is a better option (and it is also federated)
peertube is also multi-user (?) in the sense you can have multiple accounts and so can have multiple live channels eventually if wanted... owncast is singular, yeah?
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does anyone know if owncast uses multicast or something? or does each additional viewer add additional traffic
peertube ostensibly supports webTorrent so that clients share the load when multiple people are watching
talking to Sam today it occurs to me that depending on how owncast works, maybe peertube is a better option (and it is also federated)
peertube is also multi-user (?) in the sense you can have multiple accounts and so can have multiple live channels eventually if wanted... owncast is singular, yeah?
Yep that’s a benefit of Peertube streaming alright. With Owncast, you can route the viewers through object storage, so it’s less hard on the server, but not clear on the details of that.
Plus, Owncast has emojis!!!!
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Yep that’s a benefit of Peertube streaming alright. With Owncast, you can route the viewers through object storage, so it’s less hard on the server, but not clear on the details of that.
Plus, Owncast has emojis!!!!
For those unfamiliar with the finer details of each, what's the easiest platform in terms of being able to subscribe to the channel and get updates (if there are any themed shows, etc.)?
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For those unfamiliar with the finer details of each, what's the easiest platform in terms of being able to subscribe to the channel and get updates (if there are any themed shows, etc.)?
Hm, I’m not sure how “I’m Live!” notifications work in PT. I presume it’s like any other published video from the channel? I do like the multi-user aspect. Should we try it on gravitons?
There’s a few options for Owncast:
- federated “I’m Live” posts if you follow the account
- notifications from a Firefox extension
- notifications from the iOS app
- the directory: https://owncast.directory/
I guess one advantage of a community sharing an Owncast server is: we are communally building a following instead of all of us separately? Would definitely work better for artists working in a similar genre, could act as a method of discovery that way?
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Hm, I’m not sure how “I’m Live!” notifications work in PT. I presume it’s like any other published video from the channel? I do like the multi-user aspect. Should we try it on gravitons?
There’s a few options for Owncast:
- federated “I’m Live” posts if you follow the account
- notifications from a Firefox extension
- notifications from the iOS app
- the directory: https://owncast.directory/
I guess one advantage of a community sharing an Owncast server is: we are communally building a following instead of all of us separately? Would definitely work better for artists working in a similar genre, could act as a method of discovery that way?
Just been reading a bunch of stuff about whether the two can be used together in some way and stumbled across this. Thought the Replays bit was interesting: https://gabekangas.com/blog/2023/04/upcoming-owncast-features/
In this sense, it'd act as little promo clips for the ongoing music vid server, like Adult Swim's Off the Air has done between new episodes. Would be such a cool link up to have down the road!
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Hm, I’m not sure how “I’m Live!” notifications work in PT. I presume it’s like any other published video from the channel? I do like the multi-user aspect. Should we try it on gravitons?
There’s a few options for Owncast:
- federated “I’m Live” posts if you follow the account
- notifications from a Firefox extension
- notifications from the iOS app
- the directory: https://owncast.directory/
I guess one advantage of a community sharing an Owncast server is: we are communally building a following instead of all of us separately? Would definitely work better for artists working in a similar genre, could act as a method of discovery that way?
i think you are right about peertube notification - it's just a new post like any other video upload -- which includes the title, hashtags, link to video, in situ player (on mastodon anyway)
also any live streams show up on the "Browse Videos" link for the server under "Current Lives" https://communitymedia.video/videos/browse
At some point I thought Peertube team was going to host a flagship instance that would be like an aggregator... so more than just sepiasearch.org and if that ever happened things would become more visible.
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Just been reading a bunch of stuff about whether the two can be used together in some way and stumbled across this. Thought the Replays bit was interesting: https://gabekangas.com/blog/2023/04/upcoming-owncast-features/
In this sense, it'd act as little promo clips for the ongoing music vid server, like Adult Swim's Off the Air has done between new episodes. Would be such a cool link up to have down the road!
Those are great features! wow
I asked about a "syndication" capability (something like a collection of servers that could rebroadcast each other's content when nothing else is playing) and some of these features lean in that direction. Each owncast being a mini-directory is cool. A decentralized directory of sorts.
