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  3. I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

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  • livcomp@hachyderm.ioL livcomp@hachyderm.io

    @futurebird @taylorlorenz
    "federated network" has some nice flavors (currently the word "federal" notwithstanding), and sets folks up for this fine fediverse of ours.

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    @futurebird @livcomp I mean the world is bigger than the US. Federal or Confederation, to think in Canadian, is considered a good thing elsewhere 🙂

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    • alessandro@mstdn.caA alessandro@mstdn.ca

      @taylorlorenz

      It's like, imagine if a single company owned all the TV stations and news outlets?

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      @alessandro
      You mean kinda like Bezos owns Amazon (with Amazon Prime Video) and the Washington Post?
      @taylorlorenz

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      • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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        @taylorlorenz

        I tend to argue with the infamous Enshittification cycle:

        Commercial platforms are initially good for users until they capture the market. Then they make things worse for users in order to sell them out to other commercial interests. Then they make things worse for their business partners too in order to make more money.

        Decentralized, non-commercial media avoid this trap:

        They have no financial motive to make the user experience worse.

        And if a specific instance does get worse, their users can move elsewhere and take their social media connections with them.

        Thus, decentralized, non-commercial social media can actually get _better_ over time, while commercial "walled gardens" will only get worse over time.

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        • utopiarte@tupambae.orgU utopiarte@tupambae.org

          @futurebird
          > so I didn't miss posts from people who don't post frequently

          You can set notifications for profiles by activating the bell.
          It would be neat to customize that more to incial post's, not necessarily answers (or rehares).
          And a timeline only for original toots, not reshares of profiles would be fine.
          (anyway, that are mastodon specific details, from over here that's different all together)

          @diraquel

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          @futurebird @diraquel @utopiarte notifications from my closest friends are my solution too

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          • catnip@mastodon.onlineC catnip@mastodon.online

            @taylorlorenz No one can ever own it or sell it.

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            @catnip @taylorlorenz Interconnectivity, the way the internet was meant to be. No matter which provider, client, or technology you're using, you still can connect an communicate with everyone.

            Corporations want to achieve that through monopolies, whilst the fediverse (of which Mastodon is part of) does so by using common and non-proprietary standards.

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            • dannotdaniel@hellions.cloudD dannotdaniel@hellions.cloud

              @taylorlorenz I really struggled to boil this down in a quote toot but I'll try for a simpler answer here: it's ELON proof

              and custom emojis

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              @dannotdaniel @taylorlorenz my version is that it can't be bought by billionaires, and if a billionaire sweeps in and buys a large server we just fediblock that server.

              See also Bluesky.

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              • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                @taylorlorenz i would personally focus on how fedi, by its nature, is moderated by real people with a real stake in their community. i think much of why this platform is better than corporate platforms is moderation via social contract

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                • krupo@infosec.exchangeK krupo@infosec.exchange

                  @futurebird @livcomp I mean the world is bigger than the US. Federal or Confederation, to think in Canadian, is considered a good thing elsewhere 🙂

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                  @krupo @futurebird for sure it is, and the USA is also kinda deflating these days.. i think all roads should lead to 'fediverse' as the place we are and the place to be.

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                  • taylorlorenz@mastodon.socialT taylorlorenz@mastodon.social

                    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                    @taylorlorenz Tbh, the most challenging benefit to highlight, is how much abusive content your admins are probably protecting you from... The one experience of harassment I have had since I started using Mastodon was also pretty cool, as after I reported the account, their instance administrators almost immediately handled it, by deleting their account... Maybe they'd just been going under the radar, but I guess they didn't like their extensive history of that sort of behaviour...

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                    • S scottgrimmett@mastodon.au

                      @taylorlorenz If you research washing machines online, Mastodon won’t start trying to sell you one.

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                      @ScottGrimmett @taylorlorenz I have one to sell.

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                      • krupo@infosec.exchangeK krupo@infosec.exchange

                        @wiredfire falling down @cmconseils 's meme tunnel was not what I expected to do this evening but I got some great laughs and it reminded me of another thing few people have mentioned to @taylorlorenz - the extensive and enthusiastic use of #alttext to not only make this place more inclusive for those who need it but to make content easier to understand (and in the case of jokes flying over peoples' heads... Also because they need it).

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                        @wiredfire @taylorlorenz @krupo meme tunnel

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                        • livcomp@hachyderm.ioL livcomp@hachyderm.io

                          @krupo @futurebird for sure it is, and the USA is also kinda deflating these days.. i think all roads should lead to 'fediverse' as the place we are and the place to be.

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                          @futurebird @livcomp my long term project is to move some volunteering work to this platform and this mega thread has been a useful well of ideas on how to justify the move to the rest of my team.

                          The almost resolved question that has been my main personal stumbling block has been deciding on which instance to select.

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                          • haubles@hachyderm.ioH haubles@hachyderm.io

                            @taylorlorenz

                            Mastodon is the anti-influence platform

                            On the social web we are
                            - free from the influence of megalomaniacs or any one person
                            - free from the influence of VCs and profit motivations
                            - free from the influence of algorithmic manipulation

                            Plus as a bonus, you can follow a friend's "Instagram" from your "Twitter" account ✨

                            #Fediverse #Mastodon #SocialWeb

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                            @haubles @taylorlorenz that first one really isn’t true though. The fediverse has harmful parasocial and group dynamics just like every other social space. And the concentration of power in instance admins sure adds to that.

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                            • weezmgk@mastodon.socialW weezmgk@mastodon.social

                              @NMBA can you do that now? I have moved servers twice, each time, my followers disappeared. Although, I haven't had to do that terribly recently. YMMV. 🫲😕🫱 @taylorlorenz

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                              @weezmgk Did you go into the settings of your existing account, and point it to your new account?

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                              • wolvericcatkin@tech.lgbtW wolvericcatkin@tech.lgbt

                                @weezmgk Did you go into the settings of your existing account, and point it to your new account?

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                                @WolvericCatkin probably not since I don't know how to do that

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                                • dataangler@vis.socialD dataangler@vis.social

                                  @taylorlorenz Nothing new really--just that we make the algorithm with boosting often and following widely. The effort I spend in getting into streams of content is worth the satisfaction of enriching multiple aspects of my life. Knowing that a billionaire cannot ensh*ttify this is also a big plus because the present-day game plan seems to be billionaire + media outlet = ashes.

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                                  @DataAngler @taylorlorenz well they’re applying what the Nazis learned 100 years ago. You have to control the means of communication which enables you to control the message.
                                  We have a coterie of billionaires who control the printed press and most of the media, but mastodon is outwith their purvey so we can do what we like!

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                                  • weezmgk@mastodon.socialW weezmgk@mastodon.social

                                    @WolvericCatkin probably not since I don't know how to do that

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                                    @weezmgk Yeah, it's been a core part of the platform as long as I've been a user (since 2022...?), but it's a process you need to actively initiate. I don't remember where it is exactly, but if you open the web app, there should be a section in your account settings, to initiate a migration and deactivate your existing account...

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                                    • wolvericcatkin@tech.lgbtW wolvericcatkin@tech.lgbt

                                      @weezmgk Yeah, it's been a core part of the platform as long as I've been a user (since 2022...?), but it's a process you need to actively initiate. I don't remember where it is exactly, but if you open the web app, there should be a section in your account settings, to initiate a migration and deactivate your existing account...

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                                      @WolvericCatkin ok

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                                      • wjmaggos@liberal.cityW wjmaggos@liberal.city

                                        @taylorlorenz

                                        the magic of this place is that it gives the people all the power over what info, ideas and art gets attention. not governments or billionaire owners of media or corporate platforms. (not sure they'd want to hear that)

                                        the problems with social media come down to the algos, not social media itself. that's what we're proving. the algos push a tabloid culture cause they know we'll pay attention to junk, even if we'd never share it. so they push the junk and our culture dets debased.

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                                        @wjmaggos @taylorlorenz absolutely true! And very well observed. It’s not just a case of not getting adverts but every individual on the platform is filtering by boosting or not boosting suspect posts.
                                        So it’s a kind of non-stop moderation by real human beings just like us.

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                                        • bflipp@vmst.ioB bflipp@vmst.io

                                          @User47 @taylorlorenz

                                          This could work.

                                          But I feel like in a lot of ways people only view the internet as some mishmash of TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Netflix, and their banking app.

                                          If you take away the algorithm shoving content down their throat they are TOTALLY LOST because they've literally never had to seek out things on their own that interest them on the internet before.

                                          Those people are sadly never going to find a home on Mastodon as it currently operates. They physically don't have the pathways in their brain or a good enough understanding of what the internet is and how it works to "get" what Mastodon is offering.

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                                          @User47 @taylorlorenz @bflipp I'm looking for a 3 foot tall 29 foot wide hunk of a man with 4 arms and more legs.

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