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  • strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
    strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
    strypey@the.socialmusic.network
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    Continuing the side discussion from Discoverability on the Fediverse and Thought Dump, about federated VR software:

    The other app linked on that Delightful List, Prismic, appears to be in active development, with changes made to the repo as recently as a couple of weeks ago. But yes, Immers Space does appear to have stalled, which is a shame. I'm curious about whether the reasons were to do with flagging morale, technical difficulties, lack of funding to pay devs, or something else.

    As a general comment on the prospects of reviving stalled Free Code software projects ...

    Discoverability on the Fediverse and Thought Dump

    Wonder what it’d take to revive it.

    1. People to continue development of the code. Ideally the original team, or a new team with some initial mentorship from at least one of the original devs, to help them learn their way around the codebase.

    2. Expressions of interest in using it for a practical project, so there's a new motivation to continue development. In the case of Immers Space, something like;

    Discoverability on the Fediverse and Thought Dump

    a virtual environment to randomly encounter music

    Funding isn't necessarily required, and throwing money at a codebase doesn't always lead to working software, or a sustainable open source project. But sometimes it does help. Particularly if the need to work a paying job is what pulled the original team away from working on it.

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    • strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS strypey@the.socialmusic.network

      Continuing the side discussion from Discoverability on the Fediverse and Thought Dump, about federated VR software:

      The other app linked on that Delightful List, Prismic, appears to be in active development, with changes made to the repo as recently as a couple of weeks ago. But yes, Immers Space does appear to have stalled, which is a shame. I'm curious about whether the reasons were to do with flagging morale, technical difficulties, lack of funding to pay devs, or something else.

      As a general comment on the prospects of reviving stalled Free Code software projects ...

      Discoverability on the Fediverse and Thought Dump

      Wonder what it’d take to revive it.

      1. People to continue development of the code. Ideally the original team, or a new team with some initial mentorship from at least one of the original devs, to help them learn their way around the codebase.

      2. Expressions of interest in using it for a practical project, so there's a new motivation to continue development. In the case of Immers Space, something like;

      Discoverability on the Fediverse and Thought Dump

      a virtual environment to randomly encounter music

      Funding isn't necessarily required, and throwing money at a codebase doesn't always lead to working software, or a sustainable open source project. But sometimes it does help. Particularly if the need to work a paying job is what pulled the original team away from working on it.

      roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
      roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
      roberta@the.socialmusic.network
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      strypey:

      The other app linked on that Delightful List, Prismic, appears to be in active development, with changes made to the repo as recently as a couple of weeks ago.

      Do you know if there are any examples of Prismic in use that are close to some of the stuff we've talked about?

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      • roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR roberta@the.socialmusic.network
        strypey:

        The other app linked on that Delightful List, Prismic, appears to be in active development, with changes made to the repo as recently as a couple of weeks ago.

        Do you know if there are any examples of Prismic in use that are close to some of the stuff we've talked about?

        strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
        strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
        strypey@the.socialmusic.network
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        Prismic is as new to me as it is to you. But generally, speaking, it's quicker and easier to build a prototype on top of pre-existing work like the Immers Space or Prismic codebase than to start from scratch. Maybe the Prismic developer is a music fan, and would find it motivating to apply the work they're doing to a project like the one you have in mind?

        Side note: I wonder if the Prismic developers are even aware of the work already done on Immers Space?

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        • strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS strypey@the.socialmusic.network

          Prismic is as new to me as it is to you. But generally, speaking, it's quicker and easier to build a prototype on top of pre-existing work like the Immers Space or Prismic codebase than to start from scratch. Maybe the Prismic developer is a music fan, and would find it motivating to apply the work they're doing to a project like the one you have in mind?

          Side note: I wonder if the Prismic developers are even aware of the work already done on Immers Space?

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          roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
          roberta@the.socialmusic.network
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          #4

          I think they are on Mastodon.

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          • roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR roberta@the.socialmusic.network

            I think they are on Mastodon.

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            #5

            If you find an @address for anyone involved with either Prismic or Immers Space, or a link to their profile, please let us know. I had a quick search but haven't found any of them yet.

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            • strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS strypey@the.socialmusic.network

              If you find an @address for anyone involved with either Prismic or Immers Space, or a link to their profile, please let us know. I had a quick search but haven't found any of them yet.

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              roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
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              Hmm, the Fedi profiles for the devs (across both) don’t appear to be active and someone else is trying to find out more info about why immers.space stalled:

              Kevin Boyd (he/him) 🇨🇦 (@kboyd@phpc.social)

              I'm curious about whatever happened to the immers.space group that ran (or runs) a.gup.pe (https://github.com/immers-space/guppe) Seems like it's been all quiet for the past year from them. I'm considering writing a blog post about co-operatives and, if this one failed, I'd like to understand what led to the failure.

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              • strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS strypey@the.socialmusic.network

                Continuing the side discussion from Discoverability on the Fediverse and Thought Dump, about federated VR software:

                The other app linked on that Delightful List, Prismic, appears to be in active development, with changes made to the repo as recently as a couple of weeks ago. But yes, Immers Space does appear to have stalled, which is a shame. I'm curious about whether the reasons were to do with flagging morale, technical difficulties, lack of funding to pay devs, or something else.

                As a general comment on the prospects of reviving stalled Free Code software projects ...

                Discoverability on the Fediverse and Thought Dump

                Wonder what it’d take to revive it.

                1. People to continue development of the code. Ideally the original team, or a new team with some initial mentorship from at least one of the original devs, to help them learn their way around the codebase.

                2. Expressions of interest in using it for a practical project, so there's a new motivation to continue development. In the case of Immers Space, something like;

                Discoverability on the Fediverse and Thought Dump

                a virtual environment to randomly encounter music

                Funding isn't necessarily required, and throwing money at a codebase doesn't always lead to working software, or a sustainable open source project. But sometimes it does help. Particularly if the need to work a paying job is what pulled the original team away from working on it.

                strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
                strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS This user is from outside of this forum
                strypey@the.socialmusic.network
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                #7

                Not VR, but picking up on the idea of using a game type environment as a music format ...

                A kiwi band called Thee Golden Geese have released a dungeon crawler game as a way of publishing an unreleased album, called Goose Your Own Adventure. They played through it, including playing the songs, on a recent edition of Freak The Sheep, the kiwi music show on student radio station bFM. Listening to the podcast version right now, great fun :smiley:

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                • strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS strypey@the.socialmusic.network

                  Not VR, but picking up on the idea of using a game type environment as a music format ...

                  A kiwi band called Thee Golden Geese have released a dungeon crawler game as a way of publishing an unreleased album, called Goose Your Own Adventure. They played through it, including playing the songs, on a recent edition of Freak The Sheep, the kiwi music show on student radio station bFM. Listening to the podcast version right now, great fun :smiley:

                  roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
                  roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
                  roberta@the.socialmusic.network
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                  #8

                  Oh cool - I need to check this out!!

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                  • strypey@the.socialmusic.networkS strypey@the.socialmusic.network

                    Not VR, but picking up on the idea of using a game type environment as a music format ...

                    A kiwi band called Thee Golden Geese have released a dungeon crawler game as a way of publishing an unreleased album, called Goose Your Own Adventure. They played through it, including playing the songs, on a recent edition of Freak The Sheep, the kiwi music show on student radio station bFM. Listening to the podcast version right now, great fun :smiley:

                    roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
                    roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
                    roberta@the.socialmusic.network
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                    #9

                    Ok, this is ridiculous (but pretty funny) :upside_down_face:

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