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  3. It’s really surprising to me that the #fediverse hasn’t agreed on a standardized way to open cross-instance #activitypub objects and instead relies on links that open in the browser.

It’s really surprising to me that the #fediverse hasn’t agreed on a standardized way to open cross-instance #activitypub objects and instead relies on links that open in the browser.

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  • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

    @benpate @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu So I have a working proof of concept, using the Activity Intents FEP and a polyfill for software not yet supported.

    Want to work on this together?

    I will be getting the webintents.net website up shortly 😉

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    Attached: 1 image Introducing WebIntents: A universal follow button for the fediverse. Embed or link it anywhere. Click, enter your server, follow. Works with Mastodon, Emissary, Loops & more. Powered by @benpate's amazing Activity Intents FEP*. Coming soon. Calling all fediverse devs: let's collaborate and make this better together. ✨ https://webintents.net * - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/3b86/fep-3b86.md

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    @dansup @benpate @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu

    How to do ?

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    • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

      @benpate @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu So I have a working proof of concept, using the Activity Intents FEP and a polyfill for software not yet supported.

      Want to work on this together?

      I will be getting the webintents.net website up shortly 😉

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      Web Intents (@webintents@mastodon.social)

      Attached: 1 image Introducing WebIntents: A universal follow button for the fediverse. Embed or link it anywhere. Click, enter your server, follow. Works with Mastodon, Emissary, Loops & more. Powered by @benpate's amazing Activity Intents FEP*. Coming soon. Calling all fediverse devs: let's collaborate and make this better together. ✨ https://webintents.net * - https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/3b86/fep-3b86.md

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      #115

      Yes. I'm in.

      I've built similar buttons for Emissary, but they require too much server-side logic. I've been wanting to migrate the whole thing to client-side JS for some time, and make an easy widget that "webmasters" can drop on their pages.

      If you're interested, you're more than welcome to take the lead on this (I'm sooo full rn) and I'll do whatever you need to help out.

      And if you want to chat, let's jump on a video call 🙂

      @dansup @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu @webintents

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      • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

        Yes. I'm in.

        I've built similar buttons for Emissary, but they require too much server-side logic. I've been wanting to migrate the whole thing to client-side JS for some time, and make an easy widget that "webmasters" can drop on their pages.

        If you're interested, you're more than welcome to take the lead on this (I'm sooo full rn) and I'll do whatever you need to help out.

        And if you want to chat, let's jump on a video call 🙂

        @dansup @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu @webintents

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        @benpate @trwnh @ricferrer @evan @julian @rimu @webintents

        Yes, for sure! I've already built a proof of concept, that I will get setup and ready to test on a video call.

        I even got the project website up: https://webintents.net

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        • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

          @benpate what are your thoughts on matrix? I am considering using it in a product I am working on and would love to know why you don’t like it 🧐

          I’ve been testing Element X and haven’t found many issues.

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          @ricferrer

          While I do have some gripes with notifications and threaded discussions in the Element client…

          My loathing of Matrix is less about the technology, and more about having yet another place to follow discussions. I can only follow so many separate places to have discussions, and matrix doesn’t seem to add much value.

          I’d much rather try to make discussions work better HERE, instead of moving everything over to Matrix 😇

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          • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

            @ricferrer

            While I do have some gripes with notifications and threaded discussions in the Element client…

            My loathing of Matrix is less about the technology, and more about having yet another place to follow discussions. I can only follow so many separate places to have discussions, and matrix doesn’t seem to add much value.

            I’d much rather try to make discussions work better HERE, instead of moving everything over to Matrix 😇

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            @benpate yeah. I understand completely and I feel the same way that the space for communication tools is over saturated. But I do see a value in #matrix for private communication. Private/Direct #messenging in the fediverse is not good and I feel it would take a huge effort to fix it. At the same time there is in matrix already a separate solution that gives me hope about replacing #whatsapp #signal #telegram etc in a way that more aligns to my values and overlaps those of the fediverse.

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            • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

              It’s really surprising to me that the #fediverse hasn’t agreed on a standardized way to open cross-instance #activitypub objects and instead relies on links that open in the browser. #urischeme

              I found this proposal and what’s thinking… https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/07d7/fep-07d7.md Which one would be your favorite?

              (If anyone has updates on the progress, feel free to point me in the right direction)

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              @ricferrer

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              • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

                It’s really surprising to me that the #fediverse hasn’t agreed on a standardized way to open cross-instance #activitypub objects and instead relies on links that open in the browser. #urischeme

                I found this proposal and what’s thinking… https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/07d7/fep-07d7.md Which one would be your favorite?

                (If anyone has updates on the progress, feel free to point me in the right direction)

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                The ap:// URI-scheme won. 🙌🌈 it was my favorite anyways 💕#activitypub #fediverse

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                • ricferrer@mastodon.socialR ricferrer@mastodon.social

                  It’s really surprising to me that the #fediverse hasn’t agreed on a standardized way to open cross-instance #activitypub objects and instead relies on links that open in the browser. #urischeme

                  I found this proposal and what’s thinking… https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/07d7/fep-07d7.md Which one would be your favorite?

                  (If anyone has updates on the progress, feel free to point me in the right direction)

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                  @ricferrer There is `acct:` for Webfinger from https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7565

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                  • astro@c3d2.socialA astro@c3d2.social

                    @ricferrer There is `acct:` for Webfinger from https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7565

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                    @astro completely missed this. Will Check it out. Thanks

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                    • astro@c3d2.socialA astro@c3d2.social

                      @ricferrer There is `acct:` for Webfinger from https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7565

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                      @astro just read into it and it’s not designed to be actionable on its own (clicking it won’t open a client or app). It’s also only for accounts and handles used to identify a user. What I meant that we need is something that open a client to a specific post and user profile, among others. Similar protocol handlers like itms: (Apple App Store), mailto: (e-mail), tel: (phone numbers) or magnet: (BitTorrent)

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                      • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                        I understand the need to link back to an app. It’s important, but I’m voting for the open web.

                        All the search and discovery interactions *should* start out on a website somewhere, then link back to your home website (or possibly an app) to share and like.

                        But, using a new URL scheme will lock out everyone who doesn’t have an app installed, and that’s a bad UX.

                        Plus, I think we can solve this “back to my server” issue in other ways WITHOUT needing a URL scheme, like: #FEP3b86

                        @ricferrer

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                        @benpate
                        > I think we can solve this “back to my server” issue in other ways WITHOUT needing a URL scheme, like: #FEP3b86

                        The finer details of this are beyond me for now, but I know that @moshidon often seems to know that a URL leads to AP object, and opens it in-app instead of passing it to a web browser. Can you link us to any resources you used to make that magic happen Lucas?

                        @ricferrer

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