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  • reiver@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
    reiver@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
    reiver@mastodon.social
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    #1

    "@context": [
    "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",
    {
    "Quotation": "as:Quotation",
    "citation": "as:citation",
    "quotation": "as:quotation"
    },
    ],

    #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #JSONLD #ObjectTypeQuotation

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    • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

      "@context": [
      "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams",
      {
      "Quotation": "as:Quotation",
      "citation": "as:citation",
      "quotation": "as:quotation"
      },
      ],

      #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #JSONLD #ObjectTypeQuotation

      thisismissem@activitypub.spaceT This user is from outside of this forum
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      thisismissem@activitypub.space
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      #2

      What's this about? Quote posts per Mastodon are a FEP: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/044f/fep-044f.md

      Those terms do not exist in the ActivityStreams spec?

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      • reiver@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        reiver@mastodon.social
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        #3

        @thisismissem

        No. Not for quote-posts.

        For quoting things from the books, scholarly papers, blog posts, videos, podcasts, etc.

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        @reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman: (@reiver@mastodon.social)

        Attached: 1 image Quotations & the Fediverse / ActivityPub 1/ One thing I used to do a lot on social-media is — post quotations. Sometimes I was reading a book. And, I would quote things from the book and post it on social-media. Or I was reading a scholarly paper, or reading a blog post, or watching a video, or listening to a podcast, etc. ... I was thinking — how could you represent a quotation in ActivityPub‽ #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

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        • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

          @thisismissem

          No. Not for quote-posts.

          For quoting things from the books, scholarly papers, blog posts, videos, podcasts, etc.

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          @reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman: (@reiver@mastodon.social)

          Attached: 1 image Quotations & the Fediverse / ActivityPub 1/ One thing I used to do a lot on social-media is — post quotations. Sometimes I was reading a book. And, I would quote things from the book and post it on social-media. Or I was reading a scholarly paper, or reading a blog post, or watching a video, or listening to a podcast, etc. ... I was thinking — how could you represent a quotation in ActivityPub‽ #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

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          trwnh@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @reiver @thisismissem instead of making up properties that don't exist in a namespace that you don't own, you should use something that someone else already defined properly within their own authority, or otherwise define stuff under your own authority.

          for example: CITO is an ontology for citations http://purl.org/spar/cito

          see also http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#Quotation or http://purl.org/spar/fabio/Quotation

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          • trwnh@mastodon.socialT trwnh@mastodon.social

            @reiver @thisismissem instead of making up properties that don't exist in a namespace that you don't own, you should use something that someone else already defined properly within their own authority, or otherwise define stuff under your own authority.

            for example: CITO is an ontology for citations http://purl.org/spar/cito

            see also http://www.w3.org/ns/prov#Quotation or http://purl.org/spar/fabio/Quotation

            trwnh@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @reiver @thisismissem but more importantly: before defining such terms, consider what you are actually trying to do with them practically. how do you intend to process them? what's the use case? which information do you need and why? ask yourself those questions first.

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            • trwnh@mastodon.socialT trwnh@mastodon.social

              @reiver @thisismissem but more importantly: before defining such terms, consider what you are actually trying to do with them practically. how do you intend to process them? what's the use case? which information do you need and why? ask yourself those questions first.

              reiver@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              reiver@mastodon.social
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              #6

              @trwnh @thisismissem

              I already posted about that.

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              • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

                @trwnh @thisismissem

                I already posted about that.

                evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @reiver @trwnh @thisismissem The Activity Streams 2.0 Extension Policy covers some best practices for making extensions:

                Process for Including Extensions in Activity Streams 2.0

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                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                  @reiver @trwnh @thisismissem The Activity Streams 2.0 Extension Policy covers some best practices for making extensions:

                  Process for Including Extensions in Activity Streams 2.0

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                  (swicg.github.io)

                  evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @reiver @trwnh @thisismissem They're not long, so I'll list them here:

                  - A unique namespace, distinct from the Activity Streams 2.0 namespace.
                  - A JSON-LD context document at a permanent URL. Services like https://purl.archive.org/ and https://w3id.org/ can be used to provide permanent URLs.
                  - A document that describes the terms and usage of the extension.
                  - An intellectual property rights policy that is compatible with inclusion in a W3C specification.

                  [cont'd]

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    @reiver @trwnh @thisismissem They're not long, so I'll list them here:

                    - A unique namespace, distinct from the Activity Streams 2.0 namespace.
                    - A JSON-LD context document at a permanent URL. Services like https://purl.archive.org/ and https://w3id.org/ can be used to provide permanent URLs.
                    - A document that describes the terms and usage of the extension.
                    - An intellectual property rights policy that is compatible with inclusion in a W3C specification.

                    [cont'd]

                    evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @reiver @trwnh @thisismissem

                    ...

                    - Demonstrated implementation by at least two (2) independent publishers.
                    - Demonstrated implementation by at least two (2) independent consumers.

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                    • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

                      @thisismissem

                      No. Not for quote-posts.

                      For quoting things from the books, scholarly papers, blog posts, videos, podcasts, etc.

                      Link Preview Image
                      @reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman: (@reiver@mastodon.social)

                      Attached: 1 image Quotations & the Fediverse / ActivityPub 1/ One thing I used to do a lot on social-media is — post quotations. Sometimes I was reading a book. And, I would quote things from the book and post it on social-media. Or I was reading a scholarly paper, or reading a blog post, or watching a video, or listening to a podcast, etc. ... I was thinking — how could you represent a quotation in ActivityPub‽ #ActivityPub #ActivityStreams #FediDev #Fediverse #ObjectTypeNote #ObjectTypeQuotation

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                      thisismissem@activitypub.spaceT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      thisismissem@activitypub.space
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                      #10

                      reiver@mastodon.social ah, okay, the OP seemed to be lacking that context entirely

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