This is what solidarity looks like
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This is what solidarity looks like
https://thenexusofprivacy.net/what-solidarity-looks-like/
(Part 2 of “Decentralization” and erasure: Blacksky, Bluesky, and the ATmosphere)
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This is what solidarity looks like
https://thenexusofprivacy.net/what-solidarity-looks-like/
(Part 2 of “Decentralization” and erasure: Blacksky, Bluesky, and the ATmosphere)
Really enjoying this article from @thenexusofprivacy about #Blacksky and what is cooking in the independent part of the Atmosphere https://infosec.exchange/@thenexusofprivacy/115186867637585567
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This is what solidarity looks like
https://thenexusofprivacy.net/what-solidarity-looks-like/
(Part 2 of “Decentralization” and erasure: Blacksky, Bluesky, and the ATmosphere)
@thenexusofprivacy @general @fediverse @fediversenews
Like this because it celebrates the truly independent groundbreaking activities of Blacksky on AT Protocol while clarifying that the network still has a long way to go to be effectively decentralized due to the overwhelming dominance of Bluesky PBC. It is possible to both cheer for these independent efforts and hold the company to account.
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Really enjoying this article from @thenexusofprivacy about #Blacksky and what is cooking in the independent part of the Atmosphere https://infosec.exchange/@thenexusofprivacy/115186867637585567
@berniethewordsmith thanks, glad you liked it!
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@berniethewordsmith thanks, glad you liked it!
@thenexusofprivacy Have a follow-up question. Infrastructure wise, is it still more expensive to build an instance there compared to Fedi? Like, is Blacksky able to operate 100% apart from them or do they still rely on the corporate servers for some stuff?
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@thenexusofprivacy Have a follow-up question. Infrastructure wise, is it still more expensive to build an instance there compared to Fedi? Like, is Blacksky able to operate 100% apart from them or do they still rely on the corporate servers for some stuff?
@berniethewordsmith Good questions! Right now Blacsky is still using some important pieces of Bluesky infrastructure: the AppView, the platform-level automated moderation for CSAM / malware / spam (which Bluesky outsources to Hive), and the PLC directory (although they're running their own mirror of that so paying the costs for it). https://neuromatch.social/@jdp23/115107435947310644 talks a bit more about dependencies.
I'm not sure of the costs. A big difference from fedi is that the PDS only stores information from people hosted there (as opposed to here where instances have copies of all the info that's sent there). On the other hand Bluesky and Blacksy support uploaded video so it probably takes more per-person. The AppView (which they're working on) is something of an unknown -- besides Bluesky's, the only other ones currently active have just a handful of people, so it's not clear how costs will expand. Replacing platform-level moderation is expensive; Rudy estimated $160K/year -- although this is a place where the direct comparison to fedi doesn't make sense, since most instances don't do that. There are starting discussions with other projects about how to reduce costs on this, but it's early days yet.
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This is what solidarity looks like
https://thenexusofprivacy.net/what-solidarity-looks-like/
(Part 2 of “Decentralization” and erasure: Blacksky, Bluesky, and the ATmosphere)
@thenexusofprivacy @general @fediverse @fediversenews
With no extra context, I found nothing wrong in Jay quoted post.
It's good to see other server/infra/organizations taking their independent choice, though.I wonder if Mississippi/UK rulers will understand this, and point their censorship requests to the correct organizations.
The other day, we saw Microsoft asking a Fediverse admin to erase an account cached from some other server ...
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@thenexusofprivacy @general @fediverse @fediversenews
With no extra context, I found nothing wrong in Jay quoted post.
It's good to see other server/infra/organizations taking their independent choice, though.I wonder if Mississippi/UK rulers will understand this, and point their censorship requests to the correct organizations.
The other day, we saw Microsoft asking a Fediverse admin to erase an account cached from some other server ...
Yeah, I wasn't trying to get into a debate on Bluesky's moderation policies in this post, just trying to highlight that Blacksky is able to take a different.
Some context though is that Bluesky moderation changed their guidelines to prohibit "glorifying violence" -- then ran amok and started deleting a lot of posts that weren't actually glorifying violence, they were just very unsympathetic to Kirk. Is "rest in piss" glorifying violence? I wouldn't have said so! But hey, it's their network, they set the rules.
In terms of Mississippi and the UK, it's hard to know what regulators will focus on. I did another post last month about the Mississippi situation - https://privacy.thenexus.today/mississippi-bluesky-blacksky-the-atmosphere-mastodon-and-the-fediverse/
I had seen that letter from Microsoft asking to delete the account that was federated in from another server. As decentralized social networks get more traction, I think we should expect to see more of these. I don't know the specifics of the laws on this, so hard to know whether "it's just a cached copy of the data" is going to be a successful defense. In general though I think both this and the age verification situation are areas where there's a lot of value for fedi and the ATmosphere to work together to influence regulations and legal interpretations as things move forward.
