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  3. an interesting thread on Bluesky about why people are choosing to build on #ATProto instead of #ActivityPub

an interesting thread on Bluesky about why people are choosing to build on #ATProto instead of #ActivityPub

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  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

    @laurenshof Yeah, this all makes sense to me, of course, it's just interesting to see some of the things that have been putting people off the fediverse starting to slowly creep in, like thinking that you need to create a "new Bluesky account" to reply.

    Or a conversation I came across yesterday about how "login with your ATProto account" is too confusing, but "login with Bluesky" isn't accurate.

    @liaizon

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    @laurenshof @liaizon Oh yeah, found another one.

    Trying to log into witchsky.app. Need to request a security code.

    Email comes in: "Sign in to Bluesky". Hm.

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    • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

      @laurenshof @liaizon Oh yeah, found another one.

      Trying to log into witchsky.app. Need to request a security code.

      Email comes in: "Sign in to Bluesky". Hm.

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      @stefan @laurenshof again this is just a fork of the bluesky client by a single person. Try the front end of blacksky web with your bluesky account to see I think they cleaned that up quite a bit more

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      • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

        @stefan @laurenshof again this is just a fork of the bluesky client by a single person. Try the front end of blacksky web with your bluesky account to see I think they cleaned that up quite a bit more

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        @liaizon

        Well the email comes from noreply@bsky.social. But what am I signing into, the app? In that case it should say Witchsky.

        Or am I logging into Bluesky's PDS? AppView?

        It's just a confusing user experience, logging into Witchsky and getting an email about logging into Bluesky.

        @laurenshof

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        • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

          @liaizon

          Well the email comes from noreply@bsky.social. But what am I signing into, the app? In that case it should say Witchsky.

          Or am I logging into Bluesky's PDS? AppView?

          It's just a confusing user experience, logging into Witchsky and getting an email about logging into Bluesky.

          @laurenshof

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          @stefan what do you mean by `the email`? did you sign up for a new account?

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          • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

            @stefan what do you mean by `the email`? did you sign up for a new account?

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            @liaizon No, the email I was referring to here: https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/116143790170774372

            I'd expect it to say "Sign in to Witchsky".

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            • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

              @liaizon No, the email I was referring to here: https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/116143790170774372

              I'd expect it to say "Sign in to Witchsky".

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              @stefan hmm here are both login screens, one from witchsky and one from blacksky. witchsky is currently just a client app. so there is no such thing as a witchsky account. but blacksky has all the different parts of the network. so you can sign into your blacksky account with their own client app also called blacksky BUT you can also sign into the blacksky client with your bluesky account. yeah this all gets confusing fast...

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              • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                @stefan hmm here are both login screens, one from witchsky and one from blacksky. witchsky is currently just a client app. so there is no such thing as a witchsky account. but blacksky has all the different parts of the network. so you can sign into your blacksky account with their own client app also called blacksky BUT you can also sign into the blacksky client with your bluesky account. yeah this all gets confusing fast...

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                @liaizon Honestly, this does make me feel a bit better. As the Atmosphere continues to decentralize, maybe "pick a server" won't seem as confusing and daunting!

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                • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                  @stefan hmm here are both login screens, one from witchsky and one from blacksky. witchsky is currently just a client app. so there is no such thing as a witchsky account. but blacksky has all the different parts of the network. so you can sign into your blacksky account with their own client app also called blacksky BUT you can also sign into the blacksky client with your bluesky account. yeah this all gets confusing fast...

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                  @liaizon@social.wake.st alternative ATProto stacks speeding head-first into instance choosing.

                  Mm... It'd be sad if it wasn't so funny.

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                  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                    @liaizon Honestly, this does make me feel a bit better. As the Atmosphere continues to decentralize, maybe "pick a server" won't seem as confusing and daunting!

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                    @stefan@stefanbohacek.online I remember when you first signed up for hotmail you could choose from a number of vanity domains. Or maybe that was MSN... anyway.

                    It's not really a novel idea, we've all just collectively forgotten 😁

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                    • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                      @liaizon Honestly, this does make me feel a bit better. As the Atmosphere continues to decentralize, maybe "pick a server" won't seem as confusing and daunting!

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                      @stefan this is sorta my favorite optimistic hot take... that eventually down the line the atmosphere just keeps adding new layers of complexity and then we start to look more appealing again

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