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  • reiver@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
    reiver@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
    reiver@mastodon.social
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    #1

    What one person wants from an alternative to a Twitter:

    • choice of home-feed algorithm,
    • editable posts,
    • ability to moderate replies

    RE: https://x.com/Plinz/status/1685945305320329216

    #FediDev #FediDevs #FediUX #Fediverse #FediverseUX

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    • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

      What one person wants from an alternative to a Twitter:

      • choice of home-feed algorithm,
      • editable posts,
      • ability to moderate replies

      RE: https://x.com/Plinz/status/1685945305320329216

      #FediDev #FediDevs #FediUX #Fediverse #FediverseUX

      ezeno789@piefed.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
      ezeno789@piefed.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      mastodon?

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      • ezeno789@piefed.socialE ezeno789@piefed.social

        mastodon?

        reiver@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
        reiver@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
        reiver@mastodon.social
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        #3

        @ezeno789

        Mastodon could become that. But, it would need to add some new features.

        Mastodon has "editable posts". Which is great.

        But Mastodon doesn't give you a "choice of home-feed algorithm" yet. Currently, Mastodon only support reverse-chron as its home-feed algorithm. (I.e., what some inaccurately call "no algorithm".)

        And, Mastodon doesn't yet given users the "ability to moderate replies" to their posts.

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        • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

          @ezeno789

          Mastodon could become that. But, it would need to add some new features.

          Mastodon has "editable posts". Which is great.

          But Mastodon doesn't give you a "choice of home-feed algorithm" yet. Currently, Mastodon only support reverse-chron as its home-feed algorithm. (I.e., what some inaccurately call "no algorithm".)

          And, Mastodon doesn't yet given users the "ability to moderate replies" to their posts.

          evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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          @reiver @ezeno789 we do have the ability to moderate replies built into ActivityPub, though.

          Every object has a `replies` collection that is owned and managed by the creator of the object. If you don't want someone's reply to appear in the list of replies, you can remove it.

          Mastodon does not surface this feature. It also doesn't show the `replies` collection remotely. That's too bad; it would cover most of what people want from replies management.

          johnefrancis@cosocial.caJ meltedcheese@c.imM chris@mastodon.chrispelli.funC 3 Replies Last reply
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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            @reiver @ezeno789 we do have the ability to moderate replies built into ActivityPub, though.

            Every object has a `replies` collection that is owned and managed by the creator of the object. If you don't want someone's reply to appear in the list of replies, you can remove it.

            Mastodon does not surface this feature. It also doesn't show the `replies` collection remotely. That's too bad; it would cover most of what people want from replies management.

            johnefrancis@cosocial.caJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @evan @reiver @ezeno789 I could've used a "hide reply" feature this morning.

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            • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

              @ezeno789

              Mastodon could become that. But, it would need to add some new features.

              Mastodon has "editable posts". Which is great.

              But Mastodon doesn't give you a "choice of home-feed algorithm" yet. Currently, Mastodon only support reverse-chron as its home-feed algorithm. (I.e., what some inaccurately call "no algorithm".)

              And, Mastodon doesn't yet given users the "ability to moderate replies" to their posts.

              darnell@one.darnell.oneD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @reiver @ezeno789 The closest thing to what he is describing is @threads, but the ability to moderate replies comes at the cost of turning #Fediverse sharing off (at least for some posts).

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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                @reiver @ezeno789 we do have the ability to moderate replies built into ActivityPub, though.

                Every object has a `replies` collection that is owned and managed by the creator of the object. If you don't want someone's reply to appear in the list of replies, you can remove it.

                Mastodon does not surface this feature. It also doesn't show the `replies` collection remotely. That's too bad; it would cover most of what people want from replies management.

                meltedcheese@c.imM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @evan @Em0nM4stodon @reiver @ezeno789 That is too bad, because it would also allow the spontaneous threads we participate in to become something more like curated essays or conversations. But maybe that is too far from the central function of Mastodon as it exists today. Feature creep is not good.

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                • meltedcheese@c.imM meltedcheese@c.im

                  @evan @Em0nM4stodon @reiver @ezeno789 That is too bad, because it would also allow the spontaneous threads we participate in to become something more like curated essays or conversations. But maybe that is too far from the central function of Mastodon as it exists today. Feature creep is not good.

                  evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @meltedcheese @Em0nM4stodon @reiver @ezeno789 or maybe when someone posts some racist shit in your replies, you can just remove it.

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    @reiver @ezeno789 we do have the ability to moderate replies built into ActivityPub, though.

                    Every object has a `replies` collection that is owned and managed by the creator of the object. If you don't want someone's reply to appear in the list of replies, you can remove it.

                    Mastodon does not surface this feature. It also doesn't show the `replies` collection remotely. That's too bad; it would cover most of what people want from replies management.

                    chris@mastodon.chrispelli.funC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @evan @reiver @ezeno789 I don't think that would help. The reply would still be out there. Just not in that list. But the protocol doesn't depend on that list. For this to work you'd have to have a signal to all servers, that have received the reply post, to remove that message from the thread. That would probably be a another FEP. At least that is how I understand it.

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                    • reiver@mastodon.socialR reiver@mastodon.social

                      @ezeno789

                      Mastodon could become that. But, it would need to add some new features.

                      Mastodon has "editable posts". Which is great.

                      But Mastodon doesn't give you a "choice of home-feed algorithm" yet. Currently, Mastodon only support reverse-chron as its home-feed algorithm. (I.e., what some inaccurately call "no algorithm".)

                      And, Mastodon doesn't yet given users the "ability to moderate replies" to their posts.

                      jandi@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @reiver @ezeno789 About algo choices, it's very interesting the work of @cryptadamist with Fedialgo: https://github.com/michelcrypt4d4mus/fedialgo_demo_app_foryoufeed

                      Worth looking into it IMO.

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                      • chris@mastodon.chrispelli.funC chris@mastodon.chrispelli.fun

                        @evan @reiver @ezeno789 I don't think that would help. The reply would still be out there. Just not in that list. But the protocol doesn't depend on that list. For this to work you'd have to have a signal to all servers, that have received the reply post, to remove that message from the thread. That would probably be a another FEP. At least that is how I understand it.

                        evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
                        evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @chris @reiver @ezeno789 the key is that other servers have to consult the `replies` collection when they show the replies. Fortunately the original server sends `Add` and `Remove` activities when items are added and removed, so remote servers can keep a cached copy.

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