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  3. For people interested in #ActivityPub #C2S (client to server), the #GoActivityPub services have gained the ability to dynamically register OAuth2 clients based on RFC7591.

For people interested in #ActivityPub #C2S (client to server), the #GoActivityPub services have gained the ability to dynamically register OAuth2 clients based on RFC7591.

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  • django@social.coopD django@social.coop

    @mariusor this is great, I'm looking forward to testing this 🔥

    mariusor@metalhead.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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    When you do, feel free to ping me with questions (here or on the mailing list).

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    • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

      For people interested in #ActivityPub #C2S (client to server), the #GoActivityPub services have gained the ability to dynamically register OAuth2 clients based on RFC7591.

      The easiest to test is the ONI project that can be directly run without much setup: https://git.sr.ht/~mariusor/oni

      evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mariusor nice!

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      • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

        For people interested in #ActivityPub #C2S (client to server), the #GoActivityPub services have gained the ability to dynamically register OAuth2 clients based on RFC7591.

        The easiest to test is the ONI project that can be directly run without much setup: https://git.sr.ht/~mariusor/oni

        evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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        @mariusor did you implement the oauth metadata endpoint also? Can clients discover the registration endpoint easily?

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        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

          @mariusor did you implement the oauth metadata endpoint also? Can clients discover the registration endpoint easily?

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          @evan yes, yes, of course. 😄 They go hand in hand...

          I remember seeing on the SWICG mailing list a comment where this mechanism is no longer considered secure, but I don't recall the details.

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          • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

            @evan yes, yes, of course. 😄 They go hand in hand...

            I remember seeing on the SWICG mailing list a comment where this mechanism is no longer considered secure, but I don't recall the details.

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            @mariusor yeah, it might be a good idea to think about CIMD. It uses the same schema of properties as dynamic registration, but you fetch them at authorization time instead. I implemented both in onepage.pub and it was pretty straightforward.

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            Learn about Client ID Metadata Documents (CIMD) - a new OAuth approach that lets clients identify themselves using URLs instead of preregistration. Presented by Stytch.

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            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

              @mariusor yeah, it might be a good idea to think about CIMD. It uses the same schema of properties as dynamic registration, but you fetch them at authorization time instead. I implemented both in onepage.pub and it was pretty straightforward.

              Link Preview Image
              CIMD - OAuth Client ID Metadata Documents

              Learn about Client ID Metadata Documents (CIMD) - a new OAuth approach that lets clients identify themselves using URLs instead of preregistration. Presented by Stytch.

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              CIMD (client.dev)

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              @mariusor are you coming to FOSDEM? I think we should have an ActivityPub API hackday.

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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                @mariusor are you coming to FOSDEM? I think we should have an ActivityPub API hackday.

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                @evan as of now I don't plan to come.

                But I have no other obligations for February, maybe a last minute change of heart. 😄

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                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                  @mariusor yeah, it might be a good idea to think about CIMD. It uses the same schema of properties as dynamic registration, but you fetch them at authorization time instead. I implemented both in onepage.pub and it was pretty straightforward.

                  Link Preview Image
                  CIMD - OAuth Client ID Metadata Documents

                  Learn about Client ID Metadata Documents (CIMD) - a new OAuth approach that lets clients identify themselves using URLs instead of preregistration. Presented by Stytch.

                  favicon

                  CIMD (client.dev)

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                  @evan yes, this is the one, I realized I already added it to my ticket list: https://todo.sr.ht/~mariusor/go-activitypub/337

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                  • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

                    @evan as of now I don't plan to come.

                    But I have no other obligations for February, maybe a last minute change of heart. 😄

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                    @mariusor let me ask, what are your opinions on beer?

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                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                      @mariusor let me ask, what are your opinions on beer?

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                      @evan I lived in Burssels for some many years, you won't tempt me with beer. 😈

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                      • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

                        @evan I lived in Burssels for some many years, you won't tempt me with beer. 😈

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                        @mariusor that's too bad. All I have left is mussels, French fries, large-scale bureaucracy, and peeing statues.

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                        • mariusor@metalhead.clubM mariusor@metalhead.club

                          For people interested in #ActivityPub #C2S (client to server), the #GoActivityPub services have gained the ability to dynamically register OAuth2 clients based on RFC7591.

                          The easiest to test is the ONI project that can be directly run without much setup: https://git.sr.ht/~mariusor/oni

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                          I'd generally discourage RFC7591 in decentralized systems due to the fact that it creates client sprawl (this is currently a problem with Mastodon's client registration mechanism, which is why we created CIMDs) — every client in RFC7591 is a distinct client, with its own client_id and client_secret, which can make client management interfaces difficult to implement (e.g., every time you login on a mobile device or SPA, you'll get a brand new client_id). CIMDs solve this by anchoring client metadata to a URI, and using that URI as the client_id.

                          If you need to test clients using CIMDs in development, there is cimd-service however, it's currently targeting the AT Protocol ecosystem (so has a few specifics that at present there that would not necessarily make sense of ActivityPub)

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