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  • julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
    julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
    julian@community.nodebb.org
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    #1

    I'm assuming Unicode in handles is not allowed? At least by Mastodon.

    This user is not able to have their content federated because the username is all Hebrew (I think?) characters!

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    • scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
      scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
      scott@loves.tech
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      #2
      Would their ActivityPub username be לאצי@community.nodebb.org then?

      I tried to follow that username and it would not let me.
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      • scott@loves.techS scott@loves.tech
        Would their ActivityPub username be לאצי@community.nodebb.org then?

        I tried to follow that username and it would not let me.
        julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
        julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
        julian@community.nodebb.org
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        #3

        scott@loves.tech said in Unicode in handles:
        > Would their ActivityPub username be לאצי@community.nodebb.org then?<br /><br />I tried to follow that username and it would not let me.

        Indeed, that's probably the characters in their handle.

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        • scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
          scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
          scott@loves.tech
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          #4
          In Hubzilla, I was able to follow this user by pasting this URL into the "Add Connection" box:

          #^https://community.nodebb.org/user/%D7%9C%D7%90%D7%A6%D7%99

          I copied the URL in the browser for that user's profile (which contained the Hebrew characters). When I pasted it, it converted it to UTF-8 text (seen above).

          Hubzilla was able to find the user based on that UTF-8 URL. So it is possible to follow such an account, at least with Hubzilla, via the UTF-8 URL.

          It could not find %D7%9C%D7%90%D7%A6%D7%99@community.nodebb.org though, probably because NodeBB is not expecting the UTF-8 version of the username.
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          • mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            mro@digitalcourage.social
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            #5

            Hi @julian,
            as long as nobody cares about the according standards, the #fediverse will be a brittle nerd niche.

            The according standard is IMO https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7565.html#:~:text=userpart ( #RFC7033 and #RFC7565 ) referring to https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7564#section-4.2.1.

            What you find in the wild, however, is a different story as thee is no agreed upon #validator service nowhere.

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              Hi, hello everyone. I'm sorry to hear that I can't be followed because of my username characters. Does this mean that I can't be followed here on the forum or is it something else?
              Also, should I change my username to English characters?

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                Hi, hello everyone. I'm sorry to hear that I can't be followed because of my username characters. Does this mean that I can't be followed here on the forum or is it something else?
                Also, should I change my username to English characters?

                julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                julian@community.nodebb.org
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                #7

                לאצי don't worry about it! You shouldn't have to alter your username just to suit our latin-character world 😁

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                • K This user is from outside of this forum
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                  kichae@community.nodebb.org
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                  #8

                  Huh. My Lemmy mobile client has the handle and host inverted. It doesn't look like this in the default web UI, though.

                  Also, my post from Lemmy hasn't landed here yet.

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                    schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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                    For what it's worth, I'm reading this thread from Lemmy and can see this comment of yours and access your profile, so in principle there isn't anything wrong with your username.

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                    • K kichae@community.nodebb.org

                      Huh. My Lemmy mobile client has the handle and host inverted. It doesn't look like this in the default web UI, though.

                      Also, my post from Lemmy hasn't landed here yet.

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                      mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      mro@digitalcourage.social
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                      #10

                      Hi @kichae,
                      fun with RTL. How is it supposed to be?

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                      • mro@digitalcourage.socialM mro@digitalcourage.social

                        Hi @kichae,
                        fun with RTL. How is it supposed to be?

                        julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        julian@community.nodebb.org
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                        #11

                        mro@digitalcourage.social the order of the Hebrew characters is correct, although I believe it should be wrapped in <bdi> tags so the rest of the line isn't affected 🙂</bdi>

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                        • scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          scott@loves.tech
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                          @לאצי I agree with @julian, you shouldn't don't have to change your username. It's just a technical hurdle to jump over.

                          Since I can follow you on Hubzilla (via a specific URL), I don't think it is an issue with ActivityPub or WebFinger. I'm sure there is some solution that would allow other platforms to follow your account.
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                          • scott@loves.techS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @julian I just reported the issue over on the @Hubzilla Support Forum and created an issue in our repository.

                            #^https://hubzilla.org/channel/adminsforum?mid=7296e345-0ba9-51f9-b376-8e29368f3a07

                            Note: To prevent spam, you must be following adminsforum@hubzilla.org to participate in the Hubzilla Support Forum.
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                              I'm curious about how the forum https://mitmachim.top/, which operates entirely in Hebrew, deals with the issue of Unicode usernames. Does this issue even exist there? Also, it's worth noting that Mitmachim Top is based on NodeBB.

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                                I'm curious about how the forum https://mitmachim.top/, which operates entirely in Hebrew, deals with the issue of Unicode usernames. Does this issue even exist there? Also, it's worth noting that Mitmachim Top is based on NodeBB.

                                julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                julian@community.nodebb.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                julian@community.nodebb.org
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                                לאצי the usernames work fine locally (that is, on the site itself). It's when interoperating with other sites not running NodeBB where there are issues, it seems 🙂

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