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Is Submithub a scam?

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  • ryushin@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
    ryushin@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
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    Any of you have any positive experiences of Submithub? The idea of paying money to submit music to "influencers" seems pretty scammy to me.

    Is there any PR tools that are usueful for indie artists besides trusty old promo emails?

    roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR mel@the.socialmusic.networkM lorenzosmusic@the.socialmusic.networkL 3 Replies Last reply
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    • ryushin@the.socialmusic.networkR ryushin@the.socialmusic.network

      Any of you have any positive experiences of Submithub? The idea of paying money to submit music to "influencers" seems pretty scammy to me.

      Is there any PR tools that are usueful for indie artists besides trusty old promo emails?

      roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
      roberta@the.socialmusic.networkR This user is from outside of this forum
      roberta@the.socialmusic.network
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      I only ever used the free credits and I met a couple of nice blogs plus one friendly playlister who is also doing cool stuff in a venue in the Netherlands, but overall I think it's pretty rubbish and unless you want to pay for a lot of credits, you can't really send your stuff to anyone. The old method I used was going on Hype Machine and looking at blogs writing about similar artists, but lots of them have gone over to Submithub now as well. :neutral_face:

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      • ryushin@the.socialmusic.networkR ryushin@the.socialmusic.network

        Any of you have any positive experiences of Submithub? The idea of paying money to submit music to "influencers" seems pretty scammy to me.

        Is there any PR tools that are usueful for indie artists besides trusty old promo emails?

        mel@the.socialmusic.networkM This user is from outside of this forum
        mel@the.socialmusic.networkM This user is from outside of this forum
        mel@the.socialmusic.network
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        Yeah, my experience was always pretty bad as well! We talked a little about it here: https://the.socialmusic.network/t/podcast-music-pr-made-simple-diy-strategies-for-independent-artists/357/3?u=mel

        I haven't found anything better than a spreadsheet to list relevant curators, and to track submission dates and any responses. Then emails or DMs (if they prefer that). Now I'm off Insta, DMs are not an option anymore, soooo... lol!

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        • ryushin@the.socialmusic.networkR ryushin@the.socialmusic.network

          Any of you have any positive experiences of Submithub? The idea of paying money to submit music to "influencers" seems pretty scammy to me.

          Is there any PR tools that are usueful for indie artists besides trusty old promo emails?

          lorenzosmusic@the.socialmusic.networkL This user is from outside of this forum
          lorenzosmusic@the.socialmusic.networkL This user is from outside of this forum
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          I never really saw much increased interaction from it.

          I realized after submitting to some lists a while back that I knew nothing about the places my music was going to be posted or what these people were like, and noticed that's exactly what these submissions were like to them. No emotional attachment between either party, just a payment, really.

          And if it's just a firehose of paid content, who is really their audience?

          But truthfully, I eventually got bored with the site :blush:

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          • lorenzosmusic@the.socialmusic.networkL lorenzosmusic@the.socialmusic.network

            I never really saw much increased interaction from it.

            I realized after submitting to some lists a while back that I knew nothing about the places my music was going to be posted or what these people were like, and noticed that's exactly what these submissions were like to them. No emotional attachment between either party, just a payment, really.

            And if it's just a firehose of paid content, who is really their audience?

            But truthfully, I eventually got bored with the site :blush:

            kristofferlislegaard@the.socialmusic.networkK This user is from outside of this forum
            kristofferlislegaard@the.socialmusic.networkK This user is from outside of this forum
            kristofferlislegaard@the.socialmusic.network
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            lorenzosmusic:

            I knew nothing about the places my music was going to be posted or what these people were like

            lorenzosmusic:

            who is really their audience?

            I think these are really good points! I think good questions to ask is:

            1. Who is my target audience? Do I know? Is it "people like me"?
            2. Where does my target audience hang out. If it is me, where do I actually pick up suggestions? If it is not me where do they hang out?

            Something something community somthing humans something.

            Of course this also depends on genre and "nicheness" of your music. But I think it is smart for more niche artists not to think that they have to be in the same places the mainstream artists are("everywhere").

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