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Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

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  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

    But then again, maybe this is why.

    "The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports."

    Via https://mastodon.social/@dansup/115929520672656285

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    @stefan Just because Europe's in a spat with America right now, I would like it to be more but am not that optimistic, doesn't mean they don't want to control and amass proffit from those who use the platform. You can't do that with the fediverse.

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    • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

      Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

      "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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      #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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      @stefan

      If it's anything like similar startups (see Gander in Canada), they are going to spend lots of time on marketing material to investors, and little time on creating something actually useful

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      • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

        @stefan looks like a Davos stunt, a bid for LinkedIn fame.

        I’m fairly confident we’ll have forgotten the whole thing in under four weeks from now.

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        @slothrop
        WinkedIn lol
        @stefan

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        • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

          But then again, maybe this is why.

          "The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports."

          Via https://mastodon.social/@dansup/115929520672656285

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          #31

          @stefan Yeah, that tracks.

          Someone lobbied some EU suits with 'how about we make our own, with blackjack, hookers, and blockchain, AND CHAT SURVEILLANCE ALREADY BUILT IN!' and all they had to do is slip a couple hundred million into some large telco's pockets to create that failure...

          Classic modus operandi in EU for stuff like that.

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          • lockpro@mstdn.socialL lockpro@mstdn.social

            @stefan I aplaud the effort. I think the world might be different today if social media had begun with a requirement for positive ID, instead of being able to hide behind a pseudonym.

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            @Lockpro @stefan

            Yeah that works fine, until you start asking things like "Is the EU Complicit in the Genocide of Palestine", and then you get labelled as an agitator or a terrorist and they come knocking at your door.

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            • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

              Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

              "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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              #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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              @stefan I wish they wouldn’t say “amid rising tensions” when they just mean Trump is a piece of shit.

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              • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                @stefan all the "W" marketing is so low rent and cringe it's impossible to take seriously

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                • deadinside@but.still.drinkin.coffeeD deadinside@but.still.drinkin.coffee

                  @stefan Yeah, that tracks.

                  Someone lobbied some EU suits with 'how about we make our own, with blackjack, hookers, and blockchain, AND CHAT SURVEILLANCE ALREADY BUILT IN!' and all they had to do is slip a couple hundred million into some large telco's pockets to create that failure...

                  Classic modus operandi in EU for stuff like that.

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                  @deadinside @stefan yeah, this sounds like an end-run around the Chat Control defeats last year

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                  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                    Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                    "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                    #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                    @stefan people will do literally anything to avoid building on top of web standards.

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                    • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

                      @stefan @Lockpro The issue never was anonymity, but lack of accountability. Both for platforms and users.
                      If you post something vile, your account is suspended and it's a hassle to re-register you'll think twice before doing it again. But the current socal media standard¹ is you can post something vile with your full name and employer visible and still continue as if there's no problem.
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                      ¹ As per numerous examples on Facebook and x/Twitter

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                      @Mabande @stefan @Lockpro Exactly this. Plus, if you ever experienced long-term bullying at school or work you very likely knew exactly who was doing the bullying. Knowing who it was didn't stop it. Accountability is what matters.

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                      • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                        Attention Required! | Cloudflare

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                        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                        @stefan
                        My only question: is W to X as HAL was to IBM?

                        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                        • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                          Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                          "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                          @stefan

                          Let them know, its ignorance, get help from eu official accounts already on.

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                          • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                            Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                            "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                            Attention Required! | Cloudflare

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                            #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                            @stefan seems like addressing the underlying problem of social platforms not offering any interoperability or data portability would be more useful.

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                            • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                              Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                              "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                              #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                              @stefan Not necessarily. In the developing sitution, it might be about branding, but odds are good that it will interact with Fediverse.

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                              • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

                                @stefan Not necessarily. In the developing sitution, it might be about branding, but odds are good that it will interact with Fediverse.

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                                stefan@stefanbohacek.online
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                                @riley That would definitely be great!

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                                • szescstopni@circumstances.runS szescstopni@circumstances.run

                                  @stefan Great. Now China will launch Y and Russia Z. Alphabet remains stable.

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                                  @Szescstopni @stefan Nah, Alphabet failed with their attempt (Google Plus)

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                                  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                    Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                    "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                                    @stefan I think they should have gone with Y. As in "WHY aren't they federating???"

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                                    • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                      But then again, maybe this is why.

                                      "The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports."

                                      Via https://mastodon.social/@dansup/115929520672656285

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                                      @stefan technically, they could launch a Fediverse-compatible server and do ID verification there, but federate to the whole Fediverse

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                                      • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                                        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                                        @stefan

                                        Oliver Schönrock (@oschonrock@mastodon.social)

                                        @dansup It seems the concept is fully verified identities.... No Pseudonymity That probably isn't compatible with the fediverse and is a significantly different value proposition. I doubt it will succeed among the general public but it might become popular with journalists, corporate and govt accounts. More broadcast than true N:N.

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                                        • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                          Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                          "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                          Attention Required! | Cloudflare

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                                          #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                                          @stefan The fediverse is harder to control. The EU are control freaks.

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