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Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

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  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

    Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

    "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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    @stefan I wish they wouldn’t say “amid rising tensions” when they just mean Trump is a piece of shit.

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    • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

      Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

      "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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      themooserooster@mastodon.social
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      @stefan all the "W" marketing is so low rent and cringe it's impossible to take seriously

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      • deadinside@but.still.drinkin.coffeeD deadinside@but.still.drinkin.coffee

        @stefan Yeah, that tracks.

        Someone lobbied some EU suits with 'how about we make our own, with blackjack, hookers, and blockchain, AND CHAT SURVEILLANCE ALREADY BUILT IN!' and all they had to do is slip a couple hundred million into some large telco's pockets to create that failure...

        Classic modus operandi in EU for stuff like that.

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        @deadinside @stefan yeah, this sounds like an end-run around the Chat Control defeats last year

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        • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

          Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

          "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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          #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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          @stefan people will do literally anything to avoid building on top of web standards.

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          • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

            @stefan @Lockpro The issue never was anonymity, but lack of accountability. Both for platforms and users.
            If you post something vile, your account is suspended and it's a hassle to re-register you'll think twice before doing it again. But the current socal media standard¹ is you can post something vile with your full name and employer visible and still continue as if there's no problem.
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            ¹ As per numerous examples on Facebook and x/Twitter

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            @Mabande @stefan @Lockpro Exactly this. Plus, if you ever experienced long-term bullying at school or work you very likely knew exactly who was doing the bullying. Knowing who it was didn't stop it. Accountability is what matters.

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            • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

              Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

              "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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              #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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              @stefan
              My only question: is W to X as HAL was to IBM?

              #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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              • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                @stefan

                Let them know, its ignorance, get help from eu official accounts already on.

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                • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                  Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                  "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                  #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                  @stefan seems like addressing the underlying problem of social platforms not offering any interoperability or data portability would be more useful.

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                  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                    Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                    "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                    riley@toot.catR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @stefan Not necessarily. In the developing sitution, it might be about branding, but odds are good that it will interact with Fediverse.

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                    • riley@toot.catR riley@toot.cat

                      @stefan Not necessarily. In the developing sitution, it might be about branding, but odds are good that it will interact with Fediverse.

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                      @riley That would definitely be great!

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                      • szescstopni@circumstances.runS szescstopni@circumstances.run

                        @stefan Great. Now China will launch Y and Russia Z. Alphabet remains stable.

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                        @Szescstopni @stefan Nah, Alphabet failed with their attempt (Google Plus)

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                        • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                          Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                          "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                          @stefan I think they should have gone with Y. As in "WHY aren't they federating???"

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                          • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                            But then again, maybe this is why.

                            "The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports."

                            Via https://mastodon.social/@dansup/115929520672656285

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                            @stefan technically, they could launch a Fediverse-compatible server and do ID verification there, but federate to the whole Fediverse

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                            • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                              Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                              "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                              @stefan

                              Oliver Schönrock (@oschonrock@mastodon.social)

                              @dansup It seems the concept is fully verified identities.... No Pseudonymity That probably isn't compatible with the fediverse and is a significantly different value proposition. I doubt it will succeed among the general public but it might become popular with journalists, corporate and govt accounts. More broadcast than true N:N.

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                              • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                                #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                                bontchev@infosec.exchange
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                                @stefan The fediverse is harder to control. The EU are control freaks.

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                                • bontchev@infosec.exchangeB bontchev@infosec.exchange

                                  @stefan The fediverse is harder to control. The EU are control freaks.

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                                  @bontchev @stefan It's not an EU proposal. Obviously you don't have any clue how the EU works. The EU is an association of democracies that enacts legislation democratically.

                                  Yes, EU citizens *choose* control in many areas where the US prefers none. From a European perspective a country that prefers to tolerate school shootings and which elects a moron who demands the territory of allies is one with many out of control freaks.

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                                  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                    Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                    "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

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                                    @stefan
                                    I think that's PR.
                                    Looks like a private company with Swedish connections and run by a Swiss person who worked in eBay.

                                    At least she's not efrom Amazon, Meta, Alphabet or MS.

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                                    • samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS samueljohnson@mstdn.social

                                      @bontchev @stefan It's not an EU proposal. Obviously you don't have any clue how the EU works. The EU is an association of democracies that enacts legislation democratically.

                                      Yes, EU citizens *choose* control in many areas where the US prefers none. From a European perspective a country that prefers to tolerate school shootings and which elects a moron who demands the territory of allies is one with many out of control freaks.

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                                      @samueljohnson @stefan I *am* in the EU and have experienced it first-hand. The EU is a clueless, authoritarian bureaucracy, masquerading as a democracy. They try to legislate, regulate, and control every aspect of our lives, from how curved the bananas can be, to whether bottle caps should be attached to the bottles, want to scan our encrypted messages, and so on.

                                      (I'm not saying that the USA is any better; just different.)

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                                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                        @stefan It's a startup using big words, is all I can see. Not sure where this "European organisations" stuff comes from.

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                                        @jwildeboer @stefan

                                        Yup, this seems to just be some random startup's PR release without any official status.

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                                        • bontchev@infosec.exchangeB bontchev@infosec.exchange

                                          @samueljohnson @stefan I *am* in the EU and have experienced it first-hand. The EU is a clueless, authoritarian bureaucracy, masquerading as a democracy. They try to legislate, regulate, and control every aspect of our lives, from how curved the bananas can be, to whether bottle caps should be attached to the bottles, want to scan our encrypted messages, and so on.

                                          (I'm not saying that the USA is any better; just different.)

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                                          @bontchev @stefan > every aspect of our lives

                                          Arrant nonsense. And for this tripe you are muted. Bye.

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