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  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ jordanlund@lemmy.world

    I'm a bit bummed as lemmy.one was my introduction to the ecosystem. 😞

    OTOH, when they were having server problems, I set up a kbin account, but left it when it became clear I could only use the kbin app to access it. Looks like that's shut down now too!

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    can@sh.itjust.works
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    #4

    kbin development has halted due to personal issues of the sole dev.

    It's since been forked as mbin and seems to be doing well. I too am waiting for stronger app support to truly compare.

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    • troyunrau@lemmy.caT troyunrau@lemmy.ca

      Any significant communities impacted? Scrolling through my subscriptions list and I don't have any in my list.

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      can@sh.itjust.works
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      #5

      !privacyguides@lemmy.one

      Edit: not to mention the users

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      • C can@sh.itjust.works

        kbin development has halted due to personal issues of the sole dev.

        It's since been forked as mbin and seems to be doing well. I too am waiting for stronger app support to truly compare.

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        quill7513@slrpnk.net
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        #6

        I'm excited for both Piefed and MBin. Both projects are progressing rapidly and have communities that seem to have their heads and hearts in the the right places

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        • C can@sh.itjust.works

          cross-posted from: https://lemmy.one/post/27858506

          This post serves as notice that Lemmy.one will be shutting down in 90 days.

          Unfortunately, the moderation features in Lemmy never progressed to the point required to continue maintaining this service, and Lemmy simply does not have the userbase to justify the cost of this service. Myself and the moderation team apologize for the inconvenience this will cause.

          This is sad news. Hopefully the comms can migrate to other smaller instances.

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          draconic_neo@lemmy.world
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          #7

          That's kind of sad but also isn't surprising. They didn't exactly put in a huge amount of effort to maintain it, nor did they put in much effort to grow it or make it appealing as a server for people to join.

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          • draconic_neo@lemmy.worldD draconic_neo@lemmy.world

            That's kind of sad but also isn't surprising. They didn't exactly put in a huge amount of effort to maintain it, nor did they put in much effort to grow it or make it appealing as a server for people to join.

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            can@sh.itjust.works
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            That explains why despite it being around for a while I seem to have no opinion of it.

            Edit: always sad to see an instance go however

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            • C can@sh.itjust.works

              cross-posted from: https://lemmy.one/post/27858506

              This post serves as notice that Lemmy.one will be shutting down in 90 days.

              Unfortunately, the moderation features in Lemmy never progressed to the point required to continue maintaining this service, and Lemmy simply does not have the userbase to justify the cost of this service. Myself and the moderation team apologize for the inconvenience this will cause.

              This is sad news. Hopefully the comms can migrate to other smaller instances.

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              die4ever@retrolemmy.com
              wrote last edited by die4ever@retrolemmy.com
              #9

              Everyone thinks the moderation/admin features need to be improved. I'm curious which improvements people are really needing. Whenever I see big complaints about it (beehaw, lemmy.one) I never see any specifics. Link the filed Github issues for them otherwise the feature requests don't really exist, and I'd like to give them thumbs up reactions so they get prioritized more.

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              • quill7513@slrpnk.netQ quill7513@slrpnk.net

                I'm excited for both Piefed and MBin. Both projects are progressing rapidly and have communities that seem to have their heads and hearts in the the right places

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                can@sh.itjust.works
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                #10

                I'm also watching piefed's development. Flairs are good addition.

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                • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                  Everyone thinks the moderation/admin features need to be improved. I'm curious which improvements people are really needing. Whenever I see big complaints about it (beehaw, lemmy.one) I never see any specifics. Link the filed Github issues for them otherwise the feature requests don't really exist, and I'd like to give them thumbs up reactions so they get prioritized more.

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                  can@sh.itjust.works
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                  #11

                  Unrelated, but deus ex randomized sounds like a great idea. It's been so long I feel like I would have to replay the base game first.

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                  • C can@sh.itjust.works

                    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.one/post/27858506

                    This post serves as notice that Lemmy.one will be shutting down in 90 days.

                    Unfortunately, the moderation features in Lemmy never progressed to the point required to continue maintaining this service, and Lemmy simply does not have the userbase to justify the cost of this service. Myself and the moderation team apologize for the inconvenience this will cause.

                    This is sad news. Hopefully the comms can migrate to other smaller instances.

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                    j4k3@lemmy.world
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                    #12

                    Thanks for the cross post.

                    Citations needed on mod tool complaints. I mod one of the largest communities on Lemmy. In 2 years I've had around a couple dozen times that required actual mod stuff. The tools are perfectly adequate for the volume of users in my opinion.

                    We all took it a little hard when some regular users left. I get that. There will always be people coming and going for various reasons.

                    There is also always an issue with narcissists that tend to get involved with moderating for the wrong reasons.

                    All humans are lazy at times. And all of us have a right to pick up an leave if we choose. Blaming the tools as a scapegoat for one's laziness, or inadequacy, or to mask one's financial limitations, seems to me like a narcissistic way to toss in the towel and check out, like an attempt to drag others down too.

                    I wish those that want to leave all the best, and I'll still be here hanging around if you ever want to come back, friend. Regardless , thanks for what you contributed to this place in the time we spent as digital neighbors.

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                    • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                      Everyone thinks the moderation/admin features need to be improved. I'm curious which improvements people are really needing. Whenever I see big complaints about it (beehaw, lemmy.one) I never see any specifics. Link the filed Github issues for them otherwise the feature requests don't really exist, and I'd like to give them thumbs up reactions so they get prioritized more.

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                      #13

                      A built in auto mod is the largest thing. A way to say that this common pattern is spam and to block it system wide, right now we just don't have that. A nice to have stretch goal would be to use some model to fight actual gore or csam material, which just doesn't exist. A moderation dashboard would be great to see users with their comment history, vote trends, high level to see if a person just had an off comment that might be taken the wrong way, or if there is a trend of trolling behavior

                      These have been opened on the GitHub and either sit open forever or are just closed.

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                      • C can@sh.itjust.works

                        Unrelated, but deus ex randomized sounds like a great idea. It's been so long I feel like I would have to replay the base game first.

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                        #14

                        we have a game mode called "Zero Rando" (no randomization) that's basically vanilla gameplay

                        the Randomizer had so many compatibility fixes, QoL improvements, and bug fixes over the original game, this ended up being really useful for new first time players

                        since you've played before we also have "Zero Rando Plus" which is the same thing, but also includes the balance changes we've made for Randomizer

                        and we also have "Rando Lite" and "Rando Medium" to get started with the randomization stuff before going up to Normal Randomizer or Full Randomizer

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                        0:00 Vanilla Fixer: automatically applies compatibility fixes without changing the game at all.0:21 Zero Rando mode: features many quality of life improvemen...

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                        • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techS scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech

                          A built in auto mod is the largest thing. A way to say that this common pattern is spam and to block it system wide, right now we just don't have that. A nice to have stretch goal would be to use some model to fight actual gore or csam material, which just doesn't exist. A moderation dashboard would be great to see users with their comment history, vote trends, high level to see if a person just had an off comment that might be taken the wrong way, or if there is a trend of trolling behavior

                          These have been opened on the GitHub and either sit open forever or are just closed.

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                          does Reddit have any of these tools built-in? they sound cool, but they can also be built externally (I believe an automod exists?), and I would say correctly take a back seat to bug fixes

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                          • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                            does Reddit have any of these tools built-in? they sound cool, but they can also be built externally (I believe an automod exists?), and I would say correctly take a back seat to bug fixes

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                            scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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                            Why compare us to reddit? We feel like Reddit but from a hosting and admin perspective it's a whole different ballgame. Mods of reddit at worst run the risk of their communities being taken down for a bit if they let content slip through. Here on Lemmy us admins are legally liable for content that is posted. We don't have a large limited liability corporation that will take the hit for us. We need these tools, or we are the ones that will have boots through doors.

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                            • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techS scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech

                              Why compare us to reddit? We feel like Reddit but from a hosting and admin perspective it's a whole different ballgame. Mods of reddit at worst run the risk of their communities being taken down for a bit if they let content slip through. Here on Lemmy us admins are legally liable for content that is posted. We don't have a large limited liability corporation that will take the hit for us. We need these tools, or we are the ones that will have boots through doors.

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                              I think it's better as separate software. It means it can be developed more efficiently. And this seems to have a lot of features, so it seems it is efficient to develop this way.

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                              • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                                we have a game mode called "Zero Rando" (no randomization) that's basically vanilla gameplay

                                the Randomizer had so many compatibility fixes, QoL improvements, and bug fixes over the original game, this ended up being really useful for new first time players

                                since you've played before we also have "Zero Rando Plus" which is the same thing, but also includes the balance changes we've made for Randomizer

                                and we also have "Rando Lite" and "Rando Medium" to get started with the randomization stuff before going up to Normal Randomizer or Full Randomizer

                                Link Preview Image
                                Deus Ex Randomizer But You Don't Want A Randomizer (how to run Deus Ex in 2025+)

                                0:00 Vanilla Fixer: automatically applies compatibility fixes without changing the game at all.0:21 Zero Rando mode: features many quality of life improvemen...

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                                Mods4Ever - Randomizers and Stuff

                                Randomizers and more open source projects. Join our Discord and Lemmy communities!

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                                drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                How does this compare to other community patches in your opinion?

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                                  How does this compare to other community patches in your opinion?

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                                  our "Zero Rando" makes way less changes to the gameplay than GMDX or Revision, which are often recommended to first time players but they're actually totally different games from the original

                                  our "Zero Rando Plus" would be more similar in the amount of changes to them

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                                  • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                                    our "Zero Rando" makes way less changes to the gameplay than GMDX or Revision, which are often recommended to first time players but they're actually totally different games from the original

                                    our "Zero Rando Plus" would be more similar in the amount of changes to them

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                                    drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    How about Deus Ex: Transcended?

                                    I think that was the patch I ended up using my first playthrough (I'm away from my computer at the moment or else I'd check), but I might want to use something else my second time.

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                                    • D drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      How about Deus Ex: Transcended?

                                      I think that was the patch I ended up using my first playthrough (I'm away from my computer at the moment or else I'd check), but I might want to use something else my second time.

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                                      #21

                                      Transcended seems good. I haven't played it, but it sounds like it still has changes from Revision left over in it (it was forked from Revision). Like cameras seeing bodies, pawns reacting to unconscious bodies, and dogs having the jump attack. But idk if those can be turned off. If they can be turned off then it's pretty similar to our "Zero Rando".

                                      But we have more QoL features available that you can enable which aren't included by default in "Zero Rando". A big one being Password Autofill which isn't enabled by default in "Zero Rando" but it's huge for Steam Deck players.

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                                      • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ j4k3@lemmy.world

                                        Thanks for the cross post.

                                        Citations needed on mod tool complaints. I mod one of the largest communities on Lemmy. In 2 years I've had around a couple dozen times that required actual mod stuff. The tools are perfectly adequate for the volume of users in my opinion.

                                        We all took it a little hard when some regular users left. I get that. There will always be people coming and going for various reasons.

                                        There is also always an issue with narcissists that tend to get involved with moderating for the wrong reasons.

                                        All humans are lazy at times. And all of us have a right to pick up an leave if we choose. Blaming the tools as a scapegoat for one's laziness, or inadequacy, or to mask one's financial limitations, seems to me like a narcissistic way to toss in the towel and check out, like an attempt to drag others down too.

                                        I wish those that want to leave all the best, and I'll still be here hanging around if you ever want to come back, friend. Regardless , thanks for what you contributed to this place in the time we spent as digital neighbors.

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                                        The linked post explains:

                                        A Lemmy.World user informed us about an instance we are federated with that was hosting very illegal content a while back. This was a result of an attack more than a year ago, and said content federated to many other instances, which made local copies of the material. Unfortunately, when this material was taken down at the source, that action did not federate to all linked instances, meaning that there are still some instances showing this material.

                                        Once we were made aware of this, we realized that this was likely not the only occurrence, so we started looking for other instances where this content may also still exist. We have identified more than 50 affected instances and already reached out to many of them to inform them about this content to have it taken down.

                                        It seems that it is quite difficult for instance admins to do things like permanently remove posts locally which have already been removed by a mod somewhere else. Ironically, by intentionally making it difficult to access, its inaccessibility afterwards makes it difficult to... uh... access, e.g. to delete it, very much a design flaw.

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                                        • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

                                          The linked post explains:

                                          A Lemmy.World user informed us about an instance we are federated with that was hosting very illegal content a while back. This was a result of an attack more than a year ago, and said content federated to many other instances, which made local copies of the material. Unfortunately, when this material was taken down at the source, that action did not federate to all linked instances, meaning that there are still some instances showing this material.

                                          Once we were made aware of this, we realized that this was likely not the only occurrence, so we started looking for other instances where this content may also still exist. We have identified more than 50 affected instances and already reached out to many of them to inform them about this content to have it taken down.

                                          It seems that it is quite difficult for instance admins to do things like permanently remove posts locally which have already been removed by a mod somewhere else. Ironically, by intentionally making it difficult to access, its inaccessibility afterwards makes it difficult to... uh... access, e.g. to delete it, very much a design flaw.

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                                          mrbananagrabber@lemmy.today
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                                          This should be the top post. This is the part with the meat and potatoes.

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