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FEP-4f05: Soft Deletion

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    Hi all,

    Some discussion regarding NodeBB's handling of soft deleted posts and Discourse's parallel implementation prompted the creation of this FEP, which attempts to describe how the concept of soft deletion can be published without the introduction of new activities—using as:Delete as-is and relying on a backreference check for Tombstone in order to signal a soft delete.

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      Hi all,

      Some discussion regarding NodeBB's handling of soft deleted posts and Discourse's parallel implementation prompted the creation of this FEP, which attempts to describe how the concept of soft deletion can be published without the introduction of new activities—using as:Delete as-is and relying on a backreference check for Tombstone in order to signal a soft delete.

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      @Claire, in Feb 2002, you created a topic where you mentioned soft deletes. While this isn't strictly related to Undo(Delete), this FEP recommends thinking of a received Delete as an instruction to invalidate the cache, and re-fetch, which would give you a better answer as to how to handle the received Delete or Undo(Delete).

      Perhaps this might help.

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        Hi all,

        Some discussion regarding NodeBB's handling of soft deleted posts and Discourse's parallel implementation prompted the creation of this FEP, which attempts to describe how the concept of soft deletion can be published without the introduction of new activities—using as:Delete as-is and relying on a backreference check for Tombstone in order to signal a soft delete.

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        fep/fep/4f05/fep-4f05.md at main

        fep - Fediverse Enhancement Proposals

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        >Request the object (via its id) from the origin server directly

        Couldn't Delete activity itself indicate the type of operation?

        For example, if Delete contains embedded Tombstone, then treat it as a soft delete. Otherwise, treat it as a hard delete.

        >The Forums and Threaded Discussions Task Force (ForumWG) has identified a common nomenclature when referring to organized objects in a threaded discussion model.

        I find this nomenclature a bit confusing. Commented on the linked issue.

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          >Request the object (via its id) from the origin server directly

          Couldn't Delete activity itself indicate the type of operation?

          For example, if Delete contains embedded Tombstone, then treat it as a soft delete. Otherwise, treat it as a hard delete.

          >The Forums and Threaded Discussions Task Force (ForumWG) has identified a common nomenclature when referring to organized objects in a threaded discussion model.

          I find this nomenclature a bit confusing. Commented on the linked issue.

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          The assumption is that the object is not embedded. If it is, then it stands to reason that the embedded object can be used as is. I'll call it out in that section, thanks.

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            Hi all,

            Some discussion regarding NodeBB's handling of soft deleted posts and Discourse's parallel implementation prompted the creation of this FEP, which attempts to describe how the concept of soft deletion can be published without the introduction of new activities—using as:Delete as-is and relying on a backreference check for Tombstone in order to signal a soft delete.

            Link Preview Image
            fep/fep/4f05/fep-4f05.md at main

            fep - Fediverse Enhancement Proposals

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            Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)

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            @rimu@piefed.social I noticed today that PieFed supports the concept of soft deletes:

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            Perhaps this FEP would be of interest to you.

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