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  3. Migrating away from Google is damn hard, when alternative email providers are crap about spam and phishing filtering, alternative Maps applications fail searching location names, and alternative office apps are slow and buggy.

Migrating away from Google is damn hard, when alternative email providers are crap about spam and phishing filtering, alternative Maps applications fail searching location names, and alternative office apps are slow and buggy.

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  • osma@mas.toO osma@mas.to

    Migrating away from Google is damn hard, when alternative email providers are crap about spam and phishing filtering, alternative Maps applications fail searching location names, and alternative office apps are slow and buggy.
    #DeGoogle

    orioliver@newsie.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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    orioliver@newsie.social
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    @osma Proton mail works fine for me for emails. So do Firefox and Ecosia for searches. In any case, you pay for Google bells and whistles in ways that are not worth it. I'm happy to compromise a bit on convenience if it means I'm not supporting the tech bros.

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    • osma@mas.toO osma@mas.to

      Migrating away from Google is damn hard, when alternative email providers are crap about spam and phishing filtering, alternative Maps applications fail searching location names, and alternative office apps are slow and buggy.
      #DeGoogle

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      Don't @ me defending bad usability. There's no excuse for bad usability, not when good examples have been widely known for well over a decade.

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      • orioliver@newsie.socialO orioliver@newsie.social

        @osma Proton mail works fine for me for emails. So do Firefox and Ecosia for searches. In any case, you pay for Google bells and whistles in ways that are not worth it. I'm happy to compromise a bit on convenience if it means I'm not supporting the tech bros.

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        https://mas.to/@osma/114420153986198980
        @ORIOliver

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        • osma@mas.toO osma@mas.to

          Gmail is very good. The label mechanism works well especially wrt archiving messages, the spam filtering is top tier, the apps are quite good and so on. Its only problem is that it's by Google. Anyway, I have tested many other providers and none have come close.
          @kasimir

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          osma@mas.to hi, have you tried FastMail? It's the one I use that is pretty nice. I am not sure if they're an American company however.

          On the search front I have heard good things about Kagi paid search (apparently blows DDG out of the water?)

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          • osma@mas.toO This user is from outside of this forum
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            They are an AU company with US servers. No can do.

            Search has plenty of options. Qwant and Ecosia are two European ones.
            @julian

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            • osma@mas.toO osma@mas.to

              Migrating away from Google is damn hard, when alternative email providers are crap about spam and phishing filtering, alternative Maps applications fail searching location names, and alternative office apps are slow and buggy.
              #DeGoogle

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              So, I gave up on trying to make OsmAnd, OrganicMaps and the like work for me, I appreciate good UX too much to suffer them. Fortunately there is also HERE WeGo, which turned European when Nokia acquired Navteq. Thanks, Nokia.

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              • osma@mas.toO osma@mas.to

                So, I gave up on trying to make OsmAnd, OrganicMaps and the like work for me, I appreciate good UX too much to suffer them. Fortunately there is also HERE WeGo, which turned European when Nokia acquired Navteq. Thanks, Nokia.

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                @osma What are you using it for? I find OrganicMaps acceptable.

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                • kallekn@mastodonsweden.seK kallekn@mastodonsweden.se

                  @osma What are you using it for? I find OrganicMaps acceptable.

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                  It doesn't matter what I use it for. OrganicMaps UI is atrocious, completely wrong stuff gets premiumon screen placement. Unacceptable.
                  @kallekn

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                  • kallekn@mastodonsweden.seK kallekn@mastodonsweden.se

                    @osma What are you using it for? I find OrganicMaps acceptable.

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                    @kallekn @osma Have you tried Magic Earth?
                    IMO it’s by far the best OSM app for navigation.

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                    • Q q2@mastodon.nu

                      @kallekn @osma Have you tried Magic Earth?
                      IMO it’s by far the best OSM app for navigation.

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                      #17

                      I did, very briefly. Its routing guidance around here wasn't up to scratch, didn't give it another chance.
                      @q2 @kallekn

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                      • Q q2@mastodon.nu

                        @kallekn @osma Have you tried Magic Earth?
                        IMO it’s by far the best OSM app for navigation.

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                        q2@mastodon.nu nice, I wasn't happy with OSMAnd+, so hopefully this will go better!

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