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  3. So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites?

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  • morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
    morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
    morph@morphnet.de
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    #33

    @julian One thing confuses me a bit. Registration for NodeBB works just locally (with Email, Github, Google etc.) and creates a new AP handle, right? Not by use of your existing one. That's just in use by following the forums' categories.
    @haverholm

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    • morph@morphnet.deM morph@morphnet.de

      @julian One thing confuses me a bit. Registration for NodeBB works just locally (with Email, Github, Google etc.) and creates a new AP handle, right? Not by use of your existing one. That's just in use by following the forums' categories.
      @haverholm

      julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #34

      @morph@morphnet.de yes that's correct, you create a new local account.

      Use of your existing fedi handle is not quite available yet. Requires R&D and implementation from other software, so it's a much bigger lift.

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      • morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #35

        @julian I saw there exists a YunoHost package and of course now I want to run a node. I just have to figure out my ressources. They say it eats up to 1.5GB RAM. o.O
        But won't that be much lower with the very few people on board which are to expect? Or will nodebb reserve the memory?

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        • morph@morphnet.deM morph@morphnet.de

          @julian I saw there exists a YunoHost package and of course now I want to run a node. I just have to figure out my ressources. They say it eats up to 1.5GB RAM. o.O
          But won't that be much lower with the very few people on board which are to expect? Or will nodebb reserve the memory?

          julian@activitypub.spaceJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          julian@activitypub.space
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          #36

          @morph@morphnet.de NodeBB doesn't require much memory at all. It does need maybe 1gb to build static resources.

          Running it itself shouldn't need more than 500mb.

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          • morph@morphnet.deM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #37

            @julian That sounds good. Thanks for the info. I think I'll install NodeBB soon, and also Mitra. I got even an idea for a use case. Well ... and a potential community of 3-4 people. 😄
            And of course thanks a lot for your fascinating project and competent work for the Open Social Web at all. Ehm ... I'm not so good in compliments.

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            • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

              @nspsegal I think there's a slash missing in your URL: https://proustsaidthat.blog/2025/05/11/the-microsoft-doom-loop/ Giving it a read now.

              nspsegal@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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              @haverholm Apologies for the typo. The weird thing is that lately I haven't been able to cut and paste things between one site and another. I don't know what that's about.

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              • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                @nspsegal Me, I dodge the bullet by using Linux and open source software. So far, LibreOffice hasn't drunk the "AI" kool aid.

                Wordpress straying down that path is not a great sign of things to come, but I remain hopeful of a not entirely idiotic future.

                nspsegal@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                nspsegal@mastodon.social
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                #39

                @haverholm Unfortunately, I'm not tech savvy, and I rely on my IT person's advice. From what I can tell, Libre Office has incorporated Apple's old Pages program, and that has taken on AI. However, Microsoft has now added a button to undo the AI function. I guess scathing critiques are useful.

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                • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                  @nspsegal Me, I dodge the bullet by using Linux and open source software. So far, LibreOffice hasn't drunk the "AI" kool aid.

                  Wordpress straying down that path is not a great sign of things to come, but I remain hopeful of a not entirely idiotic future.

                  nspsegal@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                  nspsegal@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                  nspsegal@mastodon.social
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                  #40

                  @haverholm

                  I have this fantasy that all the unemployed brilliant tech people will join forces and create better options...

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                  • nspsegal@mastodon.socialN nspsegal@mastodon.social

                    @haverholm Apologies for the typo. The weird thing is that lately I haven't been able to cut and paste things between one site and another. I don't know what that's about.

                    haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                    haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                    haverholm@radikal.social
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                    #41

                    @nspsegal No worries, I found it easily enough.

                    I've had similar issues copy/pasting recently. Don't know if it's some security sandboxing of the clipboard that's acting up?

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                    • nspsegal@mastodon.socialN nspsegal@mastodon.social

                      @haverholm

                      I have this fantasy that all the unemployed brilliant tech people will join forces and create better options...

                      haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      haverholm@radikal.social
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                      #42

                      @nspsegal I'll join you in hoping!

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                      • miketorr@mastodon.artM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #43

                        @haverholm @davidgerard@circumstances.run Any advice on exporting Wordpress sites to an open format of some sort? I understand the "export all" function generates XML files, but how easy is it to retrieve everything from those after choosing some alternative platform? I have a small number of blog posts and some of them are precious so I've no desire to start afresh. Obviously I have the text (in Scrivener) but it's mostly about images and formatting.

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                        • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                          @julian Could be. How far along is their fediverse implementation?

                          Also, do you have experience migrating large-ish sites from one to the other? Because I'm involved with one group blog that would need to have 15 years or so worth of posts and podcast series moved from an ancient WP install...

                          haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #44

                          @julian Oh, ho ho. That's right, I forget we can't have nice things: https://lemmy.zip/comment/23379174

                          (Tldr, Ghost is being coded with Claude)

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                          • haverholm@radikal.socialH haverholm@radikal.social

                            So, given WP is willing to sell all its users down the river for some quick "AI" buzz, what fedi-enabled alternatives exist for human-centric websites? https://www.therepository.email/wordpress-ai-team-outlines-vision-for-ai-as-a-fundamental-part-of-wordpress

                            I know of write.as, plume. They're too ascetic to match the brief. ClassicPress could be an option, provided the WP-ActivityPub add-on works with that.

                            #wordpress #ActivityPub #CMS #noAI #fediverse
                            cc @davidgerard

                            haverholm@radikal.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #45

                            Follow-up post, a review of federated CMSes that can take over long running sites before Wordpress turns to slop.

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                            Recommendations for federated CMS alternatives to Wordpress? - Fediverse - kbin.earth

                            Fedi folks, I turn to you for advice with a bit of a problem. I co-admin an ActivityPub-enabled Wordpress site with 15+ years worth of blog posts and a couple of long podcast series. When WP announced [their "vision" to become a CMS for ...

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                            cc @davidgerard @nspsegal @julian @morph @elfin

                            #wordpress #ActivityPub #CMS #noAI #fediverse

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