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Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

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  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

    @uastronomer Nope, looks like it's using ATproto: https://atprotocol.dev/w-for-atproto/

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    @stefan @uastronomer does ATproto still require that the main Bluesky servers are up?

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    • sl007@digitalcourage.socialS sl007@digitalcourage.social

      @stefan

      No, I stopped following these non-real standard projects. I do also doubt some actors.
      I am very disappointed - there are more and more such projects where volunteers are involved …
      https://digitalcourage.social/@sl007/115934447986369998
      cc @bjoernsta @leonido (shame on you)

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      #81

      @sl007 I agree. To me, ATproto/atmosphere will always be an attempt to coopt a successful grassroots movement that aims to take control of our social media away from tech companies. And they seem to be quite successful.

      Still, seeing efforts like Blacksky and Northsky does give me hope that the control can be maybe wrestled back.

      @bjoernsta @leonido

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      • jcrabapple@dmv.communityJ jcrabapple@dmv.community

        @stefan @uastronomer does ATproto still require that the main Bluesky servers are up?

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        #82

        @jcrabapple Blacksky recently managed to create their own appview, which was the last missing piece for full independence from Bluesky, from what I understand.

        As for Northsky, --

        "yes, Northsky will have it's own Apps / AppView as part of Phase 2 of development."

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        Jack (@jackvalinsky.com)

        *simple answer as in what is “production ready for the average person to use” @transrights.northsky.social, @eurosky.social are there future plans to host your own AppView? I know right now it’s PDS hosting which is still important!

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        Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

        (No word from Eurosky in the same thread.)

        @uastronomer

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        • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

          Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

          "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

          Attention Required! | Cloudflare

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          #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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          #83

          @stefan Just imagine if every Fedi admin in Europe would start spamming the media with “we’re building a European alternative to X”.

          It would be silly, but still more true than these clowns.

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          • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

            @jcrabapple Blacksky recently managed to create their own appview, which was the last missing piece for full independence from Bluesky, from what I understand.

            As for Northsky, --

            "yes, Northsky will have it's own Apps / AppView as part of Phase 2 of development."

            Link Preview Image
            Jack (@jackvalinsky.com)

            *simple answer as in what is “production ready for the average person to use” @transrights.northsky.social, @eurosky.social are there future plans to host your own AppView? I know right now it’s PDS hosting which is still important!

            favicon

            Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

            (No word from Eurosky in the same thread.)

            @uastronomer

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            #84

            @stefan @uastronomer it seems like an awful lot of up front work and maintenance to stay "independent".

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            • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

              @stefan Just imagine if every Fedi admin in Europe would start spamming the media with “we’re building a European alternative to X”.

              It would be silly, but still more true than these clowns.

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              #85

              @slothrop Ha, maybe they should, though!

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              • jcrabapple@dmv.communityJ jcrabapple@dmv.community

                @stefan @uastronomer it seems like an awful lot of up front work and maintenance to stay "independent".

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                #86

                @jcrabapple Yeah, I don't know how this is all going to look long-term, given how expensive it supposedly is to run the full infrastructure.

                Blacksky has raised some money, but they currently have fewer users on their PDS than the Forkiverse server.

                Northsky has much less than that.

                Here, if you want to dig through the data: https://arewedecentralizedyet.online/data/

                @uastronomer

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                • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                  @slothrop Ha, maybe they should, though!

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                  #87

                  @stefan right?

                  RIGHT??!

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                  • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                    @slothrop Ha, maybe they should, though!

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                    #88

                    @stefan it’s @Gargron’s birthday. That’s an excellent opportunity.

                    Quick, someone put out a press release!

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                    • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

                      @stefan it’s @Gargron’s birthday. That’s an excellent opportunity.

                      Quick, someone put out a press release!

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                      #89

                      @slothrop Ah, nice, happy birthday, @Gargron! Hope you're enjoying your day!

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                      • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                        Attention Required! | Cloudflare

                        favicon

                        (cybernews.com)

                        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                        #90

                        @stefan If you read carefully, the article provides hints on why they do want to create another one:

                        „The initiative to create the social media platform W is supported by an advisory board and former ministers and business representatives, primarily from Sweden.“

                        In other words: There‘s no big money to be made w/ Mastodon and there’s no place for „former ministers“ and others to use it to look „important“ in any way either.
                        // @briankrebs

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                        • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                          Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                          "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                          Attention Required! | Cloudflare

                          favicon

                          (cybernews.com)

                          #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                          #91

                          @stefan

                          Love the reverse alphabetical naming convention and how it implies that they're planning to make as many as 22 more of these after this one.

                          (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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                          • the@ultracrepidarian.mysteriar.chT the@ultracrepidarian.mysteriar.ch

                            @stefan

                            Love the reverse alphabetical naming convention and how it implies that they're planning to make as many as 22 more of these after this one.

                            (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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                            #92

                            @the Ah, let's hope not!

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