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  3. @skykiss I think that the "indexable" and "unlisted" flags are only applied so that your instance (sfba.social) does not let search engines index your profile and posts.

@skykiss I think that the "indexable" and "unlisted" flags are only applied so that your instance (sfba.social) does not let search engines index your profile and posts.

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  • joel@fosstodon.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @skykiss I think that the "indexable" and "unlisted" flags are only applied so that your instance (sfba.social) does not let search engines index your profile and posts.

    Other activitypub services can search your account as soon as someone types your username in their search bar.

    I can't see any posts from that link though, only an empty mirror of your account.

    I think they can still delete it by "suspending" you from the nodebb server, it shouldn't be difficult.

    @FinchHaven @nodebb @julian

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      @skykiss I think that the "indexable" and "unlisted" flags are only applied so that your instance (sfba.social) does not let search engines index your profile and posts.

      Other activitypub services can search your account as soon as someone types your username in their search bar.

      I can't see any posts from that link though, only an empty mirror of your account.

      I think they can still delete it by "suspending" you from the nodebb server, it shouldn't be difficult.

      @FinchHaven @nodebb @julian

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      @skykiss I was wrong, some of your public posts are visible there as "topics", since they were not private nor unlisted on your profile (example: https://sfba.social/@skykiss/114401644804046373).

      If they supend you, it should be solved, but you should know, nodebb is behaving as any other activitypub server does.

      @FinchHaven @nodebb @julian

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        @skykiss I was wrong, some of your public posts are visible there as "topics", since they were not private nor unlisted on your profile (example: https://sfba.social/@skykiss/114401644804046373).

        If they supend you, it should be solved, but you should know, nodebb is behaving as any other activitypub server does.

        @FinchHaven @nodebb @julian

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        @joel

        " but you should know, nodebb is behaving as any other activitypub server does."

        OK

        This is neither the issue nor the solution

        The simple fact is that coder bros have been scraping content against the will of the content creator and without the content creator's knowledge as long as I've been on Mastodon

        The point is not "your data is on the Internet so anybody can take it"

        99% of people simply don't have the technical expertise, and 99% have too much personal integrity to aggregate someone else's content without their knowledge or permission

        Just because a coder bro *can* do something doesn't mean that they *should* -- not that your average bright-eyed coder bro gives a f*ck about what someone else wants anyway -- we're all just ignorant Neanderthals, right?

        So stop acting as if anything you want to do is OK to do, just because you can

        cc @skykiss @nodebb @julian

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          @joel

          " but you should know, nodebb is behaving as any other activitypub server does."

          OK

          This is neither the issue nor the solution

          The simple fact is that coder bros have been scraping content against the will of the content creator and without the content creator's knowledge as long as I've been on Mastodon

          The point is not "your data is on the Internet so anybody can take it"

          99% of people simply don't have the technical expertise, and 99% have too much personal integrity to aggregate someone else's content without their knowledge or permission

          Just because a coder bro *can* do something doesn't mean that they *should* -- not that your average bright-eyed coder bro gives a f*ck about what someone else wants anyway -- we're all just ignorant Neanderthals, right?

          So stop acting as if anything you want to do is OK to do, just because you can

          cc @skykiss @nodebb @julian

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          @FinchHaven But that's what mastodon servers do too, not just random activitypub implementations by scrapers. In the case of nodebb, the public posts are available, the private/followers-only ones are not...

          This is only a misunderstanding of what the "unlisted" flag actually means, which is to not show up in search results like google...

          If a user of nodebb followed you, you would show up there as a mirror... just like when I search "https://mastodon.social/@FinchHaven@sfba.social"

          @skykiss @julian

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          • joel@fosstodon.orgJ joel@fosstodon.org

            @FinchHaven But that's what mastodon servers do too, not just random activitypub implementations by scrapers. In the case of nodebb, the public posts are available, the private/followers-only ones are not...

            This is only a misunderstanding of what the "unlisted" flag actually means, which is to not show up in search results like google...

            If a user of nodebb followed you, you would show up there as a mirror... just like when I search "https://mastodon.social/@FinchHaven@sfba.social"

            @skykiss @julian

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            @FinchHaven ok, I completely missed the initial post mentioning "Your servers aren't flagging it as unlisted correctly"

            Feel free to ignore me from now on as I go hide in some corner...

            @skykiss @julian

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            • joel@fosstodon.orgJ joel@fosstodon.org

              @FinchHaven ok, I completely missed the initial post mentioning "Your servers aren't flagging it as unlisted correctly"

              Feel free to ignore me from now on as I go hide in some corner...

              @skykiss @julian

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              joel@fosstodon.org even in Mastodon "unlisted" simply means the "public" indicator is in cc instead of to. It does not imply that the content is private. Remember that this is why it's not even called "unlisted" anymore, but "quiet public".

              NodeBB will see the post as correctly indicated by Mastodon (that it is public), and treat it as such.

              cc finchhaven@sfba.social

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