The state of conversational contexts (February 2025)
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Streams and Hubzilla also implement
context
collection. They attachcontext
to activities, it is anOrderedCollection
, and its items are activities. -
Streams and Hubzilla also implement
context
collection. They attachcontext
to activities, it is anOrderedCollection
, and its items are activities.@silverpill@mitra.social can Mitra, Streams, and Hubzilla backfill from each other (full two-way backfill) or one-way at this time?
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@julian Mitra can backfill from Streams and Hubzilla, but it doesn't publish any collections yet.
Streams and Hubzilla have interoperable FEP-171b implementations, but I don't know about pulling the collection. They are more focused on private conversations where backfilling is not needed.
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@julian Mitra can backfill from Streams and Hubzilla, but it doesn't publish any collections yet.
Streams and Hubzilla have interoperable FEP-171b implementations, but I don't know about pulling the collection. They are more focused on private conversations where backfilling is not needed.
@silverpill@mitra.social thank you! I've updated the original post to reflect that now.
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@julian Mitra can backfill from Streams and Hubzilla, but it doesn't publish any collections yet.
Streams and Hubzilla have interoperable FEP-171b implementations, but I don't know about pulling the collection. They are more focused on private conversations where backfilling is not needed.
@silverpill I've yet to see Hubzilla backfill an entire existing thread at once. It does backfill posts from new connections on certain server apps, though. And it sometimes appears to backfill threads bit by bit over prolonged periods.
As for (streams), I can't see inhowfar it backfills because I barely actually follow anyone from there. -
@silverpill I've yet to see Hubzilla backfill an entire existing thread at once. It does backfill posts from new connections on certain server apps, though. And it sometimes appears to backfill threads bit by bit over prolonged periods.
As for (streams), I can't see inhowfar it backfills because I barely actually follow anyone from there.@jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu if you're seeing Hubzilla backfill "bit by bit" it is likely doing
inReplyTo
traversal, which is what NodeBB does if it cannot find a resolvable context. -
@julian Hubzilla internally backfills via context. Has done so all along. Activitypub content is so far backfilled via
inReplyTo
traversal and thereplies
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Thanks for putting this together @julian. I'll be coming to the next Forum WG meeting on March 6 to discuss next steps
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@panos there's nothing i could really add that's anything novel.
we simply recurse through replies collections with plans to load context collections whenever they get more adoption (and whenever i get the motivation to write the code). we already expose context collections of our own -
@panos there's nothing i could really add that's anything novel.
we simply recurse through replies collections with plans to load context collections whenever they get more adoption (and whenever i get the motivation to write the code). we already expose context collections of our own> we already expose context collections of our own
@kopper@brain.d.on-t.work you do? Kick ass. Let me run some tests and see how it performs!
> with plans to load context collections whenever they get more adoption
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Can I put you down under the "wait and see" category?