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  • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techS scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech

    A built in auto mod is the largest thing. A way to say that this common pattern is spam and to block it system wide, right now we just don't have that. A nice to have stretch goal would be to use some model to fight actual gore or csam material, which just doesn't exist. A moderation dashboard would be great to see users with their comment history, vote trends, high level to see if a person just had an off comment that might be taken the wrong way, or if there is a trend of trolling behavior

    These have been opened on the GitHub and either sit open forever or are just closed.

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    die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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    does Reddit have any of these tools built-in? they sound cool, but they can also be built externally (I believe an automod exists?), and I would say correctly take a back seat to bug fixes

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    • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

      does Reddit have any of these tools built-in? they sound cool, but they can also be built externally (I believe an automod exists?), and I would say correctly take a back seat to bug fixes

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      Why compare us to reddit? We feel like Reddit but from a hosting and admin perspective it's a whole different ballgame. Mods of reddit at worst run the risk of their communities being taken down for a bit if they let content slip through. Here on Lemmy us admins are legally liable for content that is posted. We don't have a large limited liability corporation that will take the hit for us. We need these tools, or we are the ones that will have boots through doors.

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      • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techS scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech

        Why compare us to reddit? We feel like Reddit but from a hosting and admin perspective it's a whole different ballgame. Mods of reddit at worst run the risk of their communities being taken down for a bit if they let content slip through. Here on Lemmy us admins are legally liable for content that is posted. We don't have a large limited liability corporation that will take the hit for us. We need these tools, or we are the ones that will have boots through doors.

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        GitHub - RikudouSage/LemmyAutomod

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        I think it's better as separate software. It means it can be developed more efficiently. And this seems to have a lot of features, so it seems it is efficient to develop this way.

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        • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

          we have a game mode called "Zero Rando" (no randomization) that's basically vanilla gameplay

          the Randomizer had so many compatibility fixes, QoL improvements, and bug fixes over the original game, this ended up being really useful for new first time players

          since you've played before we also have "Zero Rando Plus" which is the same thing, but also includes the balance changes we've made for Randomizer

          and we also have "Rando Lite" and "Rando Medium" to get started with the randomization stuff before going up to Normal Randomizer or Full Randomizer

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          0:00 Vanilla Fixer: automatically applies compatibility fixes without changing the game at all.0:21 Zero Rando mode: features many quality of life improvemen...

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          Mods4Ever - Randomizers and Stuff

          Randomizers and more open source projects. Join our Discord and Lemmy communities!

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          drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          How does this compare to other community patches in your opinion?

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          • D drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone

            How does this compare to other community patches in your opinion?

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            #19

            our "Zero Rando" makes way less changes to the gameplay than GMDX or Revision, which are often recommended to first time players but they're actually totally different games from the original

            our "Zero Rando Plus" would be more similar in the amount of changes to them

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            • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

              our "Zero Rando" makes way less changes to the gameplay than GMDX or Revision, which are often recommended to first time players but they're actually totally different games from the original

              our "Zero Rando Plus" would be more similar in the amount of changes to them

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              drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              How about Deus Ex: Transcended?

              I think that was the patch I ended up using my first playthrough (I'm away from my computer at the moment or else I'd check), but I might want to use something else my second time.

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              • D drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                How about Deus Ex: Transcended?

                I think that was the patch I ended up using my first playthrough (I'm away from my computer at the moment or else I'd check), but I might want to use something else my second time.

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                #21

                Transcended seems good. I haven't played it, but it sounds like it still has changes from Revision left over in it (it was forked from Revision). Like cameras seeing bodies, pawns reacting to unconscious bodies, and dogs having the jump attack. But idk if those can be turned off. If they can be turned off then it's pretty similar to our "Zero Rando".

                But we have more QoL features available that you can enable which aren't included by default in "Zero Rando". A big one being Password Autofill which isn't enabled by default in "Zero Rando" but it's huge for Steam Deck players.

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                • j4k3@lemmy.worldJ j4k3@lemmy.world

                  Thanks for the cross post.

                  Citations needed on mod tool complaints. I mod one of the largest communities on Lemmy. In 2 years I've had around a couple dozen times that required actual mod stuff. The tools are perfectly adequate for the volume of users in my opinion.

                  We all took it a little hard when some regular users left. I get that. There will always be people coming and going for various reasons.

                  There is also always an issue with narcissists that tend to get involved with moderating for the wrong reasons.

                  All humans are lazy at times. And all of us have a right to pick up an leave if we choose. Blaming the tools as a scapegoat for one's laziness, or inadequacy, or to mask one's financial limitations, seems to me like a narcissistic way to toss in the towel and check out, like an attempt to drag others down too.

                  I wish those that want to leave all the best, and I'll still be here hanging around if you ever want to come back, friend. Regardless , thanks for what you contributed to this place in the time we spent as digital neighbors.

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                  openstars@piefed.social
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                  The linked post explains:

                  A Lemmy.World user informed us about an instance we are federated with that was hosting very illegal content a while back. This was a result of an attack more than a year ago, and said content federated to many other instances, which made local copies of the material. Unfortunately, when this material was taken down at the source, that action did not federate to all linked instances, meaning that there are still some instances showing this material.

                  Once we were made aware of this, we realized that this was likely not the only occurrence, so we started looking for other instances where this content may also still exist. We have identified more than 50 affected instances and already reached out to many of them to inform them about this content to have it taken down.

                  It seems that it is quite difficult for instance admins to do things like permanently remove posts locally which have already been removed by a mod somewhere else. Ironically, by intentionally making it difficult to access, its inaccessibility afterwards makes it difficult to... uh... access, e.g. to delete it, very much a design flaw.

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                  • openstars@piefed.socialO openstars@piefed.social

                    The linked post explains:

                    A Lemmy.World user informed us about an instance we are federated with that was hosting very illegal content a while back. This was a result of an attack more than a year ago, and said content federated to many other instances, which made local copies of the material. Unfortunately, when this material was taken down at the source, that action did not federate to all linked instances, meaning that there are still some instances showing this material.

                    Once we were made aware of this, we realized that this was likely not the only occurrence, so we started looking for other instances where this content may also still exist. We have identified more than 50 affected instances and already reached out to many of them to inform them about this content to have it taken down.

                    It seems that it is quite difficult for instance admins to do things like permanently remove posts locally which have already been removed by a mod somewhere else. Ironically, by intentionally making it difficult to access, its inaccessibility afterwards makes it difficult to... uh... access, e.g. to delete it, very much a design flaw.

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                    mrbananagrabber@lemmy.today
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                    This should be the top post. This is the part with the meat and potatoes.

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                    • C can@sh.itjust.works

                      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.one/post/27858506

                      This post serves as notice that Lemmy.one will be shutting down in 90 days.

                      Unfortunately, the moderation features in Lemmy never progressed to the point required to continue maintaining this service, and Lemmy simply does not have the userbase to justify the cost of this service. Myself and the moderation team apologize for the inconvenience this will cause.

                      This is sad news. Hopefully the comms can migrate to other smaller instances.

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                      fireweed@lemmy.world
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                      "Joining the fediverse isn't hard bro, your instance doesn't matter, just pick one."

                      "Stop using Lemmy.world, we need to redistribute to smaller instances."

                      The number of times I've heard these fucking lines when people discuss why Lemmy/the Fediverse isn't growing like corp-owned alternatives...

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                      • M mrbananagrabber@lemmy.today

                        This should be the top post. This is the part with the meat and potatoes.

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                        can@sh.itjust.works
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                        I didn't know this bit when I made the crosspost.

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                        • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                          our "Zero Rando" makes way less changes to the gameplay than GMDX or Revision, which are often recommended to first time players but they're actually totally different games from the original

                          our "Zero Rando Plus" would be more similar in the amount of changes to them

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                          can@sh.itjust.works
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                          I wish I remembered if my first playthrough was vanilla or not. I feel like it was. I can't remember when it was exactly but it would have been when the game was already roughly 10 years old. Late 2000s/early 2010s

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                          • F fireweed@lemmy.world

                            "Joining the fediverse isn't hard bro, your instance doesn't matter, just pick one."

                            "Stop using Lemmy.world, we need to redistribute to smaller instances."

                            The number of times I've heard these fucking lines when people discuss why Lemmy/the Fediverse isn't growing like corp-owned alternatives...

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                            galaxynova@lemmy.ca
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                            this wouldn't be so bad if you could easily transfer your account from one instance to another

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                              this wouldn't be so bad if you could easily transfer your account from one instance to another

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                              saleh@feddit.org
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                              You can transfer all your subscriptions and blocks. What you cannot transfer is your imaginary internet points that aren't summed up by default in lemmy anyways.

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                              • S saleh@feddit.org

                                You can transfer all your subscriptions and blocks. What you cannot transfer is your imaginary internet points that aren't summed up by default in lemmy anyways.

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                                utopiah@lemmy.world
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                                you cannot transfer is your imaginary internet points

                                Ironically enough, even though "imaginary" this aspect might be key to moderation. Assuming (and that's a flawed assumption) that people would upvote/downvote based not on their opinion but rather on how healthy/unhealthy to the discussion a comment is, then those "points" would be useful to see above/below a threshold one would want to interact, e.g. show content or not (or even now show even as to unfold).

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                                • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                                  does Reddit have any of these tools built-in? they sound cool, but they can also be built externally (I believe an automod exists?), and I would say correctly take a back seat to bug fixes

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                                  jackbydev@programming.dev
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                                  For admins? Surely.

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                                    you cannot transfer is your imaginary internet points

                                    Ironically enough, even though "imaginary" this aspect might be key to moderation. Assuming (and that's a flawed assumption) that people would upvote/downvote based not on their opinion but rather on how healthy/unhealthy to the discussion a comment is, then those "points" would be useful to see above/below a threshold one would want to interact, e.g. show content or not (or even now show even as to unfold).

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                                    drmoose@lemmy.world
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                                    Nah the points are laughably easy to game even in centralized reddit since this moderation aspect never made any sense. As if bad actors can't upvote themselves, buy upvotes or just repost any random garbage to /r/funny.

                                    Its a terrible system that turned Reddit into a content desert. Once you decline some new person because "they dint have enough karma" they're never trying to contribute again and you end up with power users who have a moat around content production.

                                    Shared moderation lists already do all of this in an actually functional way. You can subscribe to Bob's list of douchebags and have the client block them. This is something bluesky added quite recently but it already exists on fediverse to instance admins tho afaik not individual users yet.

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                                    • jackbydev@programming.devJ jackbydev@programming.dev

                                      For admins? Surely.

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                                      die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                                      #32

                                      I wonder if it's in the same git repo as Reddit itself, or if it's separate software

                                      or if they even think it matters if it's built-in or separate

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                                      • F fireweed@lemmy.world

                                        "Joining the fediverse isn't hard bro, your instance doesn't matter, just pick one."

                                        "Stop using Lemmy.world, we need to redistribute to smaller instances."

                                        The number of times I've heard these fucking lines when people discuss why Lemmy/the Fediverse isn't growing like corp-owned alternatives...

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                                        omegalemmy@discuss.online
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                                        to be fair, they're both correct. Lemmy.world could go solo with no federation and still have a decent user base, maybe add db0 and ani.social and it would cover nearly all of the bases.

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