Dear Fedi friends,
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@_elena they seem like great domains to start hosting fedi services. they go looking for euro-corp they find international co-op
@_elena what's known as guerrilla marketing
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@palin Europe is finally taking steps toward independence from US IT infrastructure. It’s likely too little, too late, but it’s still a move in the right direction. While I appreciate the effort, I suspect the Fediverse might have been a better solution. That said, I cynically believe this initiative will fail miserably without much outside interference
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@_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.
Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.
Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.
That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.
@_elena @nopatience I second that.
A video addressing the nearly 60% of Members of the European Parliament still active on X would be beautiful.
What would happen if prominent politicians had official, active accounts on the Fediverse? Public attention would certainly follow, as would journalists, who are obligated to track and report on political figures.
People don't leave the Fediverse solely because of technical hurdles. Many arrive, look around, and simply don't find enough reasons to stay. Retention is not just a usability problem, but also a matter of social density and relevance. With a sufficiently large and visible group of active participants, the Fediverse could generate its own gravity and flourish beyond the tech-savvy community.
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Dear Fedi friends,
I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).
The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).
Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?
@_elena its probably better not to sabotage EU alternatives, but by grabbing domains the fediverse could be injected into the news cycle, if done with a coherent message to the media.
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@_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.
Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.
Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.
That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.
@nopatience @_elena I second this
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@_elena It’s ironic that the supposed European alternative to X and the answer to independence from U.S. tech is… using “American” ATProto instead of “European” Mastodon.
Anuj Ahooja (@quillmatiq.com)
Turns out, W may run on ATProto. Dope. Probably should've led with that in the initial PR cycle, and I wish they had given props to other folks building ATProto infra in Europe as well. Not too late to do so! [contains quote post or other embedded content]
Bluesky Social (bsky.app)
EDIT: Sorry, I mixed up Wsocial with Wedium https://wedium.social
New social networks are popping up everywhere these days.
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Dear Fedi friends,
I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).
The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).
Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?
@_elena@mastodon.social Do it!
Every voice that points out how stupid the idea is must be publicly available. -
Dear Fedi friends,
I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).
The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).
Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?
@_elena The "you need to upload a valid form of ID" is reason alone to blast it, so I very much support blasting it.
I was curious about it, but as soon as I saw that requirement, I went "NOPE".
I get the why they want to do it that way, to clamp down on bots and have traceability in case of abuse, but it's an Orwelian nightmare. Not to mention that a third party will have access to your ID photos, and we all know how well (as in, not) said third-parties handle and secure PII...
And then of course there's the advertisers salivating over the whole thing, because it's a 100% sure way to pinpoint EXACTLY who they're advertising to.
Not to mention over-zealous (to put it mildly) law enforcement accessing said targeting data...
Yes, this very much needs a major blast.
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Dear Fedi friends,
I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).
The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).
Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?
@_elena Honestly, I think that will only create a sense of division: "Mine is better than yours".
I don't believe that's what the world needs now. I think we need to try to find a common ground. For example, why did they choose the ATProto?
Although I would prefer them to have decided on ActivityPub, maybe they have a reason.
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@_elena No, please don't. Spend your beautiful energy and time on building and contributing to what we already have.
Don't waste a second on deconstructing, arguing against stuff we don't control.
Make more videos like you did before, the Mastodon / Fediverse intro video. It was beautiful and awesome.
That's what you should do. Build, don't destroy.
@nopatience@swecyb.com @_elena@mastodon.social When it comes to competitors, treat them like the dead: praise them — or keep it buried.
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@_elena Honestly, I think that will only create a sense of division: "Mine is better than yours".
I don't believe that's what the world needs now. I think we need to try to find a common ground. For example, why did they choose the ATProto?
Although I would prefer them to have decided on ActivityPub, maybe they have a reason.
@_elena One thing I see myself doing more and more lately is writing to companies and institutions, asking them why they don't have an account on the Fediverse and explaining how to do it. It works, but it has to be easy. One thing I'm constantly telling them is that there's a simple way to do it if they are running their blog on WordPress. I also send them a how-to I wrote.
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Dear Fedi friends,
I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).
The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).
Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?
@_elena Hijacking the ludicrous agitprop for a better purpose is a good idea.
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@_elena Honestly, I think that will only create a sense of division: "Mine is better than yours".
I don't believe that's what the world needs now. I think we need to try to find a common ground. For example, why did they choose the ATProto?
Although I would prefer them to have decided on ActivityPub, maybe they have a reason.
@vladcampos @_elena Well, I guess a counterpoint would be that them deciding to do this thing while pretending nothing at all exists in this space in Europe currently is also creating a sense of division already.
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@vladcampos @_elena Well, I guess a counterpoint would be that them deciding to do this thing while pretending nothing at all exists in this space in Europe currently is also creating a sense of division already.
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Dear Fedi friends,
I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).
The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).
Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?
A couple of arguments, if I may:
1) why reinvent the wheel ???
2) why a proprietary system (as it is derived from bluesky)
3) why not simply ask every member state to put up an official mastodon instance and use that ??? That would be much simpler and cheaper !!
Good luck
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A couple of arguments, if I may:
1) why reinvent the wheel ???
2) why a proprietary system (as it is derived from bluesky)
3) why not simply ask every member state to put up an official mastodon instance and use that ??? That would be much simpler and cheaper !!
Good luck
@FrankauLux @_elena all they did was tap the EU for funding and they’re so cautious and clueless they backed it because they used the right buzzwords
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@FrankauLux @_elena all they did was tap the EU for funding and they’re so cautious and clueless they backed it because they used the right buzzwords
Well not sure they are so clueless, since the EU institutions have had their own mastodon instances for a while.
The Commission, the Parliament and the Court of Justice all have an instance.I think it is more a case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand does, ie politician answering before consulting the tech guys.
But we'll see.
Luckily (in this case) things go slow and we have time to alter the course. -
EDIT: Sorry, I mixed up Wsocial with Wedium https://wedium.social
New social networks are popping up everywhere these days.
@sturmsucht @d1re_w0lf @_elena Does anyone of these people (from wedium GmbH) exist in any form on an activtypub instance or atpro/bluesky?
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@sturmsucht @d1re_w0lf @_elena Does anyone of these people (from wedium GmbH) exist in any form on an activtypub instance or atpro/bluesky?
I have no idea. The short interview I heard was with Johannes (if I'm not wrong) where he talked about that trust and safety will play a huge part and that they want to achieve this with verification. They also plan to monetise it to make it sustainable. I'm not really sure which platform they will use or if they will code something themselves.
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@_elena Honestly, I think that will only create a sense of division: "Mine is better than yours".
I don't believe that's what the world needs now. I think we need to try to find a common ground. For example, why did they choose the ATProto?
Although I would prefer them to have decided on ActivityPub, maybe they have a reason.
"why did they choose the ATProto?"
The cynic in me: because it's centralized.
Governments may talk a big talk about things, but at the end of the day, they're legacy systems and they want control.
Alas, too many seem to have not acknowledged that the Internet is already an intergalactic system of collaboration and already operates at scale of billions of users with billions of packets per hour.
Legacy meatware governance is obsolete, but the transition period is going to be long and drawn out and in the interim, a lot of "reinventing the flat tire" will presumably play out, ad nauseam. ;(
We already had end-to-end encrypted realtime libre/free open source "federated" (I would use the phrase: "distributed") systems such as SILC (Secure Internet Live Conferencing) before ActivityPub (or twitter or Facebook, etc.) was ever conceived of in the first place. But, why was it never popularized? It circumvents centralized control and the "powers that be" don't like not being able to ratchet down on others. Class warfare is their paradigm, so they prefer to perpetuate such things, rather than normalize new paradigms which make themselves obsolete. ;-/
IRC? XMPP? FTP? HTTP? Other plaintext by default protocols, very popular! Spies just love spying!
Note: SILC isn't alone, there's PSYC2, GNUnet and other libre/free end-to-end encrypted comms systems; but as much as some may claim they want such things, what seems to gain traction and momentum every time? Over and over again? Insecure, centralized, systems. If you follow the popularity and the "money" it's usually the same old dirt bags behind the scenes pulling the strings.
CC: @_elena@mastodon.social
