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Is there a Lemmy server/way that doesn't require allowing javascript of a million other servers?

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  • ? Guest

    So, I am one of those old school types who mains with Firefox and Noscript. And also a filthy casual that just goes on lemmy.world. But half the images are broken because I'm expected to allow scripts on like 30+ sites to see most of the posts. I'm literally expected to allow /all/ the scripts from a domain just so I can see a dang picture behind the thumbnail. That's the entirety of the scripting needed. That seems ridiculous. Is there, I don't know, a server/way that makes it so I don't have to blanket allow all these scripts? To put it in meme form (not sure I'm doing it right, never seen the show): "It's an image of a banana Michael, what should it take, one Raspberry Pi running Docker?"

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    sintra@lemmy.world
    wrote last edited by
    #3

    Unfortunately no. Lemmy is a web application. JavaScript is the only thing giving interactivity. Without it we'd load a whole new html page each time. Try middle clicking on image links to view them, should open a new tab. "It works on my machine" of course, but good luck though.

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    • ? Guest

      So, I am one of those old school types who mains with Firefox and Noscript. And also a filthy casual that just goes on lemmy.world. But half the images are broken because I'm expected to allow scripts on like 30+ sites to see most of the posts. I'm literally expected to allow /all/ the scripts from a domain just so I can see a dang picture behind the thumbnail. That's the entirety of the scripting needed. That seems ridiculous. Is there, I don't know, a server/way that makes it so I don't have to blanket allow all these scripts? To put it in meme form (not sure I'm doing it right, never seen the show): "It's an image of a banana Michael, what should it take, one Raspberry Pi running Docker?"

      asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA This user is from outside of this forum
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      asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev
      wrote last edited by
      #4

      I think the old Lemmy alternative frontend supports no JS. But I'm not sure whether the dev is still actively maintaining it: https://github.com/rystaf/mlmym

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      • ? Guest

        So, I am one of those old school types who mains with Firefox and Noscript. And also a filthy casual that just goes on lemmy.world. But half the images are broken because I'm expected to allow scripts on like 30+ sites to see most of the posts. I'm literally expected to allow /all/ the scripts from a domain just so I can see a dang picture behind the thumbnail. That's the entirety of the scripting needed. That seems ridiculous. Is there, I don't know, a server/way that makes it so I don't have to blanket allow all these scripts? To put it in meme form (not sure I'm doing it right, never seen the show): "It's an image of a banana Michael, what should it take, one Raspberry Pi running Docker?"

        rimu@piefed.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        rimu@piefed.social
        wrote last edited by
        #5

        Yes.

        PieFed uses very minimal javascript (it 95% works with JS entirely disabled) and you can access all the same communities and posts.

        Try it at https://piefed.social or any of these other instances - https://join.piefed.social/try

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        • shimitar@downonthestreet.euS shimitar@downonthestreet.eu

          I respect your choices, but I am afraid modern web is mostly JavaScript. Can you actually browse anything with noscript today?

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          naught101@lemmy.world
          wrote last edited by
          #6

          Yes, you can.

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          • shimitar@downonthestreet.euS shimitar@downonthestreet.eu

            I respect your choices, but I am afraid modern web is mostly JavaScript. Can you actually browse anything with noscript today?

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            ashtear@lemm.ee
            wrote last edited by
            #7

            Absolutely. The vast majority of my sites do just fine when whitelisting only the primary domain. I consider it an essential add-on myself.

            Lemmy is one of the few that needs a little babysitting, and it's only for the purpose OP stated.

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            • ? Guest

              So, I am one of those old school types who mains with Firefox and Noscript. And also a filthy casual that just goes on lemmy.world. But half the images are broken because I'm expected to allow scripts on like 30+ sites to see most of the posts. I'm literally expected to allow /all/ the scripts from a domain just so I can see a dang picture behind the thumbnail. That's the entirety of the scripting needed. That seems ridiculous. Is there, I don't know, a server/way that makes it so I don't have to blanket allow all these scripts? To put it in meme form (not sure I'm doing it right, never seen the show): "It's an image of a banana Michael, what should it take, one Raspberry Pi running Docker?"

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              flamingos@feddit.uk
              wrote last edited by flamingos@feddit.uk
              #8

              Use a native app like a mobile client or Blorp if you're on Mac?

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              • ? Guest

                So, I am one of those old school types who mains with Firefox and Noscript. And also a filthy casual that just goes on lemmy.world. But half the images are broken because I'm expected to allow scripts on like 30+ sites to see most of the posts. I'm literally expected to allow /all/ the scripts from a domain just so I can see a dang picture behind the thumbnail. That's the entirety of the scripting needed. That seems ridiculous. Is there, I don't know, a server/way that makes it so I don't have to blanket allow all these scripts? To put it in meme form (not sure I'm doing it right, never seen the show): "It's an image of a banana Michael, what should it take, one Raspberry Pi running Docker?"

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                solrize@lemmy.ml
                wrote last edited by
                #9

                I'm on lemmy.ml, it uses JS but it doesn't appear to load any from other domains. It serves images through a local proxy.

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                • ? Guest

                  So, I am one of those old school types who mains with Firefox and Noscript. And also a filthy casual that just goes on lemmy.world. But half the images are broken because I'm expected to allow scripts on like 30+ sites to see most of the posts. I'm literally expected to allow /all/ the scripts from a domain just so I can see a dang picture behind the thumbnail. That's the entirety of the scripting needed. That seems ridiculous. Is there, I don't know, a server/way that makes it so I don't have to blanket allow all these scripts? To put it in meme form (not sure I'm doing it right, never seen the show): "It's an image of a banana Michael, what should it take, one Raspberry Pi running Docker?"

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                  mnmalst@lemmy.zip
                  wrote last edited by mnmalst@lemmy.zip
                  #10

                  I use the https://vger.app/ app / front end on mobile AND desktop and as far as I can tell it tunnels the images through their servers, so this is as minimal as you can get in regards to extra requests.

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                  • asudox@lemmy.asudox.devA asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev

                    I think the old Lemmy alternative frontend supports no JS. But I'm not sure whether the dev is still actively maintaining it: https://github.com/rystaf/mlmym

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                    gedaliyah@lemmy.world
                    wrote last edited by
                    #11

                    This is available as old.lemmy.world

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                    • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldG gedaliyah@lemmy.world

                      This is available as old.lemmy.world

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                      blaze@piefed.social
                      wrote last edited by
                      #12
                      • https://old.lemmy.zip/
                      • https://oldsh.itjust.works/
                      • https://old.lemmy.ca/
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                      • ? Guest

                        So, I am one of those old school types who mains with Firefox and Noscript. And also a filthy casual that just goes on lemmy.world. But half the images are broken because I'm expected to allow scripts on like 30+ sites to see most of the posts. I'm literally expected to allow /all/ the scripts from a domain just so I can see a dang picture behind the thumbnail. That's the entirety of the scripting needed. That seems ridiculous. Is there, I don't know, a server/way that makes it so I don't have to blanket allow all these scripts? To put it in meme form (not sure I'm doing it right, never seen the show): "It's an image of a banana Michael, what should it take, one Raspberry Pi running Docker?"

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                        dragnucs@lemmy.ml
                        wrote last edited by
                        #13

                        Look for a desktop app.

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                        • ashtear@lemm.eeA ashtear@lemm.ee

                          Absolutely. The vast majority of my sites do just fine when whitelisting only the primary domain. I consider it an essential add-on myself.

                          Lemmy is one of the few that needs a little babysitting, and it's only for the purpose OP stated.

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                          shimitar@downonthestreet.eu
                          wrote last edited by
                          #14

                          Good to know...
                          Is it a pleasant experience?

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                          • N naught101@lemmy.world

                            Yes, you can.

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                            shimitar@downonthestreet.eu
                            wrote last edited by
                            #15

                            Yes, I did

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                            • rimu@piefed.socialR rimu@piefed.social

                              Yes.

                              PieFed uses very minimal javascript (it 95% works with JS entirely disabled) and you can access all the same communities and posts.

                              Try it at https://piefed.social or any of these other instances - https://join.piefed.social/try

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                              trinsec@piefed.social
                              wrote last edited by
                              #16

                              Just curious, what's the 5% that doesn't work with JS disabled?

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                              • trinsec@piefed.socialT trinsec@piefed.social

                                Just curious, what's the 5% that doesn't work with JS disabled?

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                                rimu@piefed.social
                                wrote last edited by
                                #17

                                Voting, lol. Kinda important.

                                Dropdown menus. They're not really needed but life sucks without them.

                                Can't manually switch between dark and light mode (only automatically based on browser settings).

                                There's probably more but I haven't seriously tried to use PieFed for long without JS. Fundamentally it's built HTML and CSS first, with sprinkles of JS added on for funsies rather than the modern way of being all about JS.

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                                • D dragnucs@lemmy.ml

                                  Look for a desktop app.

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                                  omegalemmy@discuss.online
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #18

                                  I don't think any exist

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                                  • rimu@piefed.socialR rimu@piefed.social

                                    Voting, lol. Kinda important.

                                    Dropdown menus. They're not really needed but life sucks without them.

                                    Can't manually switch between dark and light mode (only automatically based on browser settings).

                                    There's probably more but I haven't seriously tried to use PieFed for long without JS. Fundamentally it's built HTML and CSS first, with sprinkles of JS added on for funsies rather than the modern way of being all about JS.

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                                    foggy@lemmy.world
                                    wrote last edited by foggy@lemmy.world
                                    #19

                                    Yesterday:

                                    <nav script="dropdown.js" style="dropdown.css">
                                      <button onclick="toggleDropdown()">Menu</button>
                                    </nav>
                                    

                                    Today:

                                    // index.js
                                    import React from 'react';
                                    import ReactDOM from 'react-dom';
                                    import './global.css';
                                    import App from './App';
                                    
                                    ReactDOM.createRoot(document.getElementById('root')).render(<App />);
                                    
                                    // App.jsx
                                    import Dropdown from './components/Dropdown';
                                    import './App.css';
                                    
                                    export default function App() {
                                      return (
                                        <main>
                                          <Dropdown />
                                          <p>Hello, world!</p>
                                        </main>
                                      );
                                    }
                                    
                                    // components/Dropdown.jsx
                                    import { useState } from 'react';
                                    import styles from './Dropdown.module.css';
                                    import ArrowIcon from '../assets/icons/ArrowIcon.jsx';
                                    
                                    export default function Dropdown() {
                                      const [open, setOpen] = useState(false);
                                      return (
                                       <div className={styles.dropdown}>
                                          <button onClick={() => setOpen(!open)}>Menu <ArrowIcon /></button>
                                          {open && (
                                            <ul>
                                              <li>Option 1</li>
                                              <li>Option 2</li>
                                            </ul>
                                          )}
                                        </div>
                                      );
                                    }
                                    
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                                    • blaze@piefed.socialB blaze@piefed.social
                                      • https://old.lemmy.zip/
                                      • https://oldsh.itjust.works/
                                      • https://old.lemmy.ca/
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                                      bdonvr@thelemmy.club
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #20

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      thelemmy.club

                                      favicon

                                      (old.thelemmy.club)

                                      Unfortunately with Lemmy 1.0 MLMYM (the software used to provide this UI) will have to be shutdown, unless the MLMYM dev re-appears or someone forks and maintains it.

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                                      • omegalemmy@discuss.onlineO omegalemmy@discuss.online

                                        I don't think any exist

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                                        quazaromega@lemy.lol
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #21

                                        There is Interstellar!

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                                        • M mnmalst@lemmy.zip

                                          I use the https://vger.app/ app / front end on mobile AND desktop and as far as I can tell it tunnels the images through their servers, so this is as minimal as you can get in regards to extra requests.

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                                          bdonvr@thelemmy.club
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #22

                                          Some instances host this themselves too.

                                          Voyager for Lemmy

                                          Voyager is a beautiful mobile web client for Lemmy. Enjoy a seamless experience browsing the fediverse.

                                          favicon

                                          (app.thelemmy.club)

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